Many church leaders think of their staff as family. But if they're family, can you fire them? Jon Gordon has coached hundreds of professional sports teams and companies and explains what it takes to make the tough calls, including firing people you see as family.

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Dan Heath, author of Made to Stick, The Power of Moments, and other seminal leadership books, talks about the six surprising traits of sticky sermons, how to design church experiences people never forget, why focusing on the problem is the wrong approach to leadership, what he's learned from Chick-fil-A, and getting people to change.

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Matt Smethurst has listened to and studied more hours of Tim Keller's preaching and teaching than almost anyone alive.

In this conversation, Matt gets us inside Tim Keller's mind, breaking down what made Keller's preaching so effective, his DNA, and even his rule of life.

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COMPASSION

God describes Himself as compassionate, gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in love - aspects that describe His deeply caring, merciful, and generous nature.

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