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In this episode, Rudy discusses the importance of borates in pool chemistry, particularly their role in stabilizing pH levels, reducing chemical usage, and enhancing water clarity. He explains the chemistry behind borates, their effects on algae, and practical applications for pool maintenance. Additionally, Rudy addresses safety concerns and common misconceptions about borates, emphasizing their benefits for long-term water stability.

takeaways

• Borates are one of the most powerful tools in pool chemistry.
• They help stabilize pH and reduce chemical usage.
• The physics and chemistry of pool water can lead to pH drift.
• Borates create a hostile environment for algae, preventing blooms.
• Water with borates feels smoother and looks clearer.
• Borates help prevent scaling in saltwater pools and heaters.
• Testing borates is straightforward with test strips.
• Borates are generally low in toxicity but should be handled with care.
• They do not kill algae outright but make conditions less favorable for it.
• Maintaining borate levels is essential for long-term pool stability.

Sound Bites

• "It makes your life a heck of a lot easier."
• "It's not soft water, it's smart water."
• "You only lose borates through dilution."

Chapters

00:00
Understanding Total Alkalinity and Borates

05:48
The Chemistry of Borates in Pool Water

09:27
Effects of Borates on Algae and Water Clarity

14:18
Practical Application of Borates in Pool Maintenance

18:58
Safety and Misconceptions about Borates

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In this episode, Steve Sherwood discusses the challenges of pool maintenance during rainy weather, emphasizing the importance of effective communication with clients regarding service times and expectations. He also delves into the significance of proper water testing and the differences between commercial and residential pool care. Additionally, insights into insurance considerations for pool professionals are shared, highlighting the need for preparedness in the face of unpredictable weather events.


Takeaways

Weather can significantly impact pool maintenance schedules.
Utilizing weather apps can help plan pool servicing effectively.
Communication with clients about service times is crucial.
Different companies have varying policies on service duration and charges.
Understanding client expectations is key to successful pool care.
Insurance is essential for protecting against weather-related damages.
Regular water testing is vital for maintaining pool health.
Commercial pools require more frequent testing than residential pools.
Using accurate testing methods is important for pool chemistry management.
Effective communication can prevent misunderstandings and enhance client relationships.


"What do you do with these pools when it rains?"
"You have to test the water every two hours."
"You need to communicate with your clients."


Chapters

00:00 Weather Challenges and Pool Maintenance
11:46 Understanding Pool Chemistry and Client Communication
19:09 Insurance Insights and Weather-Related Claims
24:45 Navigating Insurance Claims and Due Diligence
27:38 Building Trust with Insurance Providers
29:00 The Importance of Client Relationships
30:14 Testing Pool Water: Best Practices
32:32 Understanding Long-Term Indicators in Pool Maintenance
44:02 Commercial vs. Residential Pool Testing
52:38 Effective Communication in Pool Service

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Mondays Down Under – Understanding Pool & Spa Standards in Australia & New Zealand

This week on Mondays Down Under, Lee and Shane dive into a topic that every pool and spa professional thinks they understand—until they don’t: standards, regulations, and the rules that actually govern your work on both sides of the Tasman.

From fencing laws to suction entrapment prevention, from dangerous goods handling to new fiberglass standards, this episode breaks down exactly what service technicians, retail pros, and builders need to know to stay compliant, stay safe, and avoid being on the wrong side of an inspector—or worse, an accident.

What Lee & Shane Cover This Episode:

• Why even Airbnbs and bed-and-breakfast pools count as commercial pools in most regions
• The most commonly used Australian standard: AS 1926 (safety barriers, location, and recirculation systems)
• How New Zealand’s rules differ—and where they mirror Australia
• The growing crackdown on inflatable, portable, and pop-up pools in New Zealand
• Real-world stories of councils interpreting rules their own way
• The often-ignored but critical AS 1926.3 standard: suction fittings, skimmer boxes, and entrapment prevention
• Suction cover flow-rate differences between brands like Waterco and Spa Electrics—and how choosing the wrong replacement can create a hazard
• Why every technician needs to match pump selection to compliant flow-rate limits
• Old but still referenced: the private pool water quality standard AS 3633 and its upcoming rewrite
• Where water quality rules actually come from (hint: your state health guidelines)
• Dangerous goods standards including:
  • AS 3780 – storage and handling of corrosive substances
  • AS/NZS 3833 – mixed classes of dangerous goods (recently updated to 2024)
• Additional niche standards builders and installers should know:
  • AS/NZS 1477 – PVC pressure pipes & fittings
  • AS 3634 – solar heating systems
  • AS 5348 – pool covers
• The massive update to the fiberglass pool installation standard:
  • Former AS/NZS 1838:1994 → now AS/NZS 1839:2025
• Why SPASA is currently seeking industry feedback for the new concrete pool standard under development

The Big Message:

If you work on a pool—service, retail, install, or build—you need to know the standards that govern your work. They protect your customer, and they protect you.

Links & Mentions:

• SPASA contact for contributing to the new concrete pool standard: ben@spasa.com.au
  
  
• Check your state health guidelines for water-quality requirements
• Remember: Commercial pool rules apply to Airbnb, holiday rentals, and any property where someone is paying to stay—whether the pool is big, small, or inflatable.

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Thanks for listening to Mondays Down Under! Stay safe, stay compliant, and stay curious.
We’ll catch you next week!

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Welcome to an in-depth exploration of leak detection in pools, a topic that often goes unnoticed yet is crucial for any pool owner. In this blog post, we’ll highlight key insights and practical tips from a recent podcast episode featuring industry experts Natalie Hood and Jared Medeiros. Let’s dive in and unravel the myths surrounding leak detection and maintenance.

Section 1: Understanding the Importance of Leak Detection Leaks can lead to significant water loss and costly repairs if not addressed promptly. Natalie and Jared emphasized the importance of being proactive rather than reactive when it comes to leak detection. As Jared, a seasoned professional in the aquatics industry, points out, understanding the signs of leaks can save pool owners time, money, and headaches in the long run.

Section 2: Common Myths About Pool Plaster One common myth discussed in the podcast is that plaster lasts forever if maintained correctly. Jared clarified that while proper maintenance can extend the lifespan of plaster, it is not indestructible. For instance, between five to ten years, homeowners may start to notice scaling, staining, and roughness if the pool chemistry is neglected. Jared notes that many homeowners wait too long, often until the plaster is visibly damaged, before considering resurfacing or repairs.

Section 3: Repairing Plaster Underwater Another myth addressed is the belief that plaster cannot be repaired underwater. Jared debunked this notion, stating that underwater repairs are indeed possible and often necessary for minor damages. He explained that only in extreme cases, such as structural failures, would a complete drain be required. This insight is crucial for homeowners who may fear costly and disruptive repairs.

Section 4: Differentiating Between Surface and Structural Issues Natalie shared a personal anecdote about her father’s experience with a pool leak, highlighting the challenge homeowners face in distinguishing between surface cracks and structural failures. Jared advised that if homeowners are losing significant amounts of water, it’s likely a structural issue that needs immediate attention. In contrast, minor water loss might just require a quick repair rather than an extensive fix.

Section 5: The Role of Water Chemistry The podcast also touched on the importance of water chemistry in maintaining the integrity of pool surfaces. Both Natalie and Jared stress that consistent testing and balancing of pool chemicals are vital for prolonging the life of plaster. Neglecting water chemistry can lead to costly repairs and diminished aesthetics over time.

Conclusion: Key Takeaways As we wrap up this discussion on leak detection and pool maintenance, the key takeaways are clear: 1. Proactive leak detection can save you time and money. 2. Understanding the lifespan of plaster and recognizing signs of wear is crucial. 3. Repairing plaster underwater is often feasible, but structural issues require immediate attention. 4. Maintaining proper water chemistry is essential for the longevity of your pool surfaces. Educating yourself about these aspects can empower you as a pool owner and ensure your investment remains beautiful and functional for years to come.

Tags: pool maintenance, leak detection, plaster repairs, water chemistry, pool care tips, aquatics industry insights, pool

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Featuring Don Douglas of Revd Up Apparel — Gold Sponsor of the Mentor of the Year Award

Some episodes age like fine wine.
This one… aged like a perfectly balanced LSI reading.

Andrea and Paulette crack open a legendary conversation from the Talking Pools archives — the day Don Douglas of Revd Up Apparel stopped by and changed the way the pool industry thinks about clothes, branding, and what “professional” really looks like in the field.

This isn’t just an interview.
It’s an origin story.
It’s a cautionary tale.
It’s a fashion show, a chemistry class, and a public service announcement wrapped in laughs and storytelling the way only Andrea and Paulette can deliver.

And yes — Revd Up Apparel is also a proud Gold Sponsor of the Talking Pools Mentor of the Year Award. The company that built chemical-resistant gear for pool pros is also helping build the next generation of leaders. That connection hits different now.

🌊 Episode Overview

Don takes us back to the beginnings of Revd Up Apparel — before the fulfillment center, before the fan-favorite custom jerseys, before they were outfitting half the industry — to the moment he realized pool techs deserved gear that could survive chlorine splashes, muriatic acid droplets, and the occasional “customer who swears their dog doesn’t bite.”

Andrea and Paulette take the conversation into beautifully chaotic territory, weaving together topics every pool pro deals with:

💧 Chemical safety myths that need to die already
💧 The hair-care advice every parent wishes they learned sooner
💧 Why pre-wetting your hair is the unsung hero of avoiding green-tips
💧 Branding as a small pool business: looking legit vs. looking lost
💧 Why your shirt shouldn’t bleach faster than your chlorine does

There’s education, heart, and a little “pool-pro trauma bonding,” the kind that makes our industry one big family.

🔥 Listener Takeaways (Emotion First, Info Always)

• Your uniform matters more to your brand than your truck wrap. Don explains why custom, chemical-resistant apparel can make even a one-person route look like a franchise.
• Revd Up Apparel isn’t just selling shirts — they’re solving problems pool pros have lived with for decades.
• Never, ever mix unknown chemicals. The stories shared in this episode might tighten your stomach. They’re meant to.
• Pool safety is everyone’s job — Andrea and Paulette speak from experience, urging listeners to watch the water, trust their gut, and speak up.
• Hair care isn’t vanity — it’s chemistry. Pre-wetting hair reduces metal absorption and chlorine-related discoloration.
• Parents: listen closely. Your awareness around the pool is the most important piece of safety equipment your child has.
• You can order a single shirt. Revd Up’s fulfillment model is built for both big teams and solo operators.
• Your appearance sets the tone. Pool pros don’t just maintain water — they maintain trust.

🎨 Design Contest Alert!

This episode originally launched the now-legendary Revd Up listener design contest. If you weren’t around then, you’ll understand why it became a fan favorite. Think crea

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In this episode, Rudy delves into the intricacies of total alkalinity in pool chemistry, explaining its critical role in maintaining pH levels and overall water balance. He discusses the impact of carbon dioxide and borates on pool chemistry, emphasizing the importance of understanding these elements for effective pool maintenance. The conversation highlights the challenges faced by pool service professionals and the need for consistent testing and adjustments to ensure optimal water quality.

takeaways

• Total alkalinity is crucial for stabilizing pH levels in pools.
• High alkalinity can lead to pH drift, making management difficult.
• Carbon dioxide plays a significant role in pH changes in pool water.
• Borates act as a secondary buffer, stabilizing pH against rises.
• Maintaining a balance between alkalinity and borates is essential for water chemistry.
• Regular testing of total alkalinity is important for pool maintenance.
• Understanding the relationship between alkalinity and pH is key to effective pool care.
• The use of borates can enhance chlorine efficiency in pools.
• Pool professionals must adapt to changing chemical dynamics in water.
• A well-balanced pool system leads to predictable water behavior.

Sound Bites

• "Alkalinity is the heart's pacemaker."
• "You're the one keeping families safe."
• "Until next time, be good, be safe."

Chapters

00:00
Understanding Total Alkalinity in Pool Chemistry

04:30
The Impact of Alkalinity on pH Levels

11:15
The Role of Carbon Dioxide and Borates

20:18
Maintaining Balance in Pool Water Chemistry

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🔑 Episode Highlights:

• Wayne’s Health Update & Podcast Direction Wayne shares a personal health update and how it’s shaping the future of the show.
• Celebrating Mentorship: Rich Gallo Named Mentor of the Year A heartfelt tribute to Rich Gallo’s impact on the pool service industry and his dedication to mentoring others.
• Business Wisdom from Rich Gallo Rich opens up about his entrepreneurial journey, lessons learned, and the importance of staying grounded.
• Teamwork Makes the Dream Work A candid discussion on how collaboration and trust fuel business success.
• Sponsorships & Product Shoutouts Highlighting key products and sponsors that support the show and the pool service community.
• Navigating the Pool Industry Insights into insurance, safety, and the unique challenges of managing commercial pool accounts.
• Understanding Bids & Pricing Tips on how to approach bidding and pricing strategies in a competitive market.
• The Role of Distributors Exploring how distributors influence the pool business ecosystem.
• Final Thoughts & Community Engagement A call to action for listeners to stay connected and support each other in the industry.

🛠️ Tools & Resources Mentioned:

• [Product recommendations and sponsors]
• [Insurance and safety guidelines for pool businesses]
• [Mentorship programs in the pool industry]

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In this powerful conclusion to the two-part episode Clear Water Can Still Kill, Natalie Hood and Dewey Case pull back the curtain on the myths that continue to plague both residential and commercial pool operations. From chlorine “smell” misconceptions to Airbnb water safety, they challenge everything we think we know about clean, safe, and healthy pool water.

Dewey explains why clear doesn’t always mean clean—and why that faint haze, that “smells clean” comment, or that once-a-week test schedule could spell serious trouble. Natalie takes it a step further, sharing real-world stories of visiting family pools that reeked of combined chlorine, and why that chemical sting is the ultimate red flag for poor air and water management.

Together, they break down:

• Why public spas can be a microbiological minefield (and why Dewey won’t get in them)
• The shocking truth about short-term pool rentals and backyard “pool sharing” apps
• Why HOAs testing once a week isn’t just lazy—it’s dangerous
• The right testing frequency for both homeowners and pool pros
• Why water testing at the pool store days later is absolutely not okay
• How education and continuing certification separate the pros from the pretenders
• And why a commercial pool isn’t just a “big backyard pool”—it’s a Ferrari compared to a Ford

Dewey and Natalie wrap with a reality check: certification is just your driver’s license. The real work is what comes after—continuous education, field experience, and doing the job right even when no one’s watching.

Key Quote:

Next Week:
Natalie returns with The Grit Game’s Jared Medeiros and JD “Positive Vibes” Director to tackle one of the toughest topics in pool care: leak detection. You won’t want to miss this one!

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#TalkingPoolsPodcast #PoolSafety #MythBusting #PublicHealth #CMAHC #GritGame #PoolPros

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