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Listening to Lawyers

Listening to Lawyers

By: Amber Ault
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Listening to Lawyers, an audio project of the Wisconsin Lawyers Assistance Program (WisLAP) at the State Bar of Wisconsin, features Wisconsin lawyers sharing personal stories of the unexpected challenges that have shaped them. Theirs are stories of struggle, resilience, persistence, and creative and brave navigation through challenging territory while lawyering. Listeners say they are surprised, touched, and inspired by what they learn from Listening to Lawyers.2025 Career Success Economics Hygiene & Healthy Living Psychology Psychology & Mental Health
Episodes
  • Episode 5: Navigating the Alzheimer's Journey - Insights from Former Governor Martin Schreiber
    Dec 15 2025

    This conversation features former Wisconsin Governor Martin Schreiber discussing his experiences as a caregiver for his wife Elaine, who suffered from Alzheimer's disease. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the disease, the need for caregivers to take care of themselves, and the role of community support. Gov. Schreiber shares insights from his award-winning memoir, "My Two Elaines," and highlights the emotional challenges faced by caregivers. He advocates for greater awareness and education about Alzheimer's to foster a supportive environment for both patients and caregivers.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Alzheimer's Caregiving

    01:27 The Journey of Caregiving: The Two Elaines

    05:48 Living Our Best Life as Caregivers

    12:01 Seeking Help: The Importance of Support

    13:14 Understanding Alzheimer's: The Role of Caregivers

    8:48 Making Alzheimer's a 'Chicken Casserole' Disease

    21:10 Systemic Support for Alzheimer's Caregivers

    25:56 Decisions in Caregiving: The Tough Choices

    28:14 Awareness for Lawyers: Memory Issues

    31:55 Conversations About Memory Loss

    36:17 Public Awareness and Personal Processing

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    41 mins
  • Episode 4: From Fields of Coal to the Fields of Law: Work-Life Integration and Family with Aviva Kaiser
    Oct 30 2025

    In this episode of Listening to Lawyers, a special project of the State Bar's Wisconsin Lawyer Assistance Program (WisLAP), attorney Aviva Kaiser shares her inspiring journey from a childhood in a Pennsylvania coal mining town to building a prominent and unconventional career in the legal field. She discusses her experiences with work-life integration, the importance of establishing guiding principles, and the challenges of balancing professional and family life. Aviva reflects on her activism and the role of law in her life, and offers valuable advice for future generations of lawyers, emphasizing the need for support and understanding in navigating the complexities of the legal profession.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Aviva Kaiser and Her Journey

    02:17 From Coal Mining Town to Law School

    04:37 Activism and the Pursuit of Justice

    07:06 Navigating Work-Life Integration as a Lawyer

    10:22 Establishing Guiding Principles for Life

    15:25 The Role of Law in Personal and Professional Life

    18:46 Creating Family Rituals and Quality Time

    22:21 Living with Less: Prioritizing Family Over Wealth

    25:07 Reflections on Career Choices and Regrets

    29:29 Advice for Future Generations of Lawyers

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    35 mins
  • Episode 3: Jennifer Lee Edmondson's Cancer Diagnosis and Treatment Journey
    Jul 25 2025

    In this episode of Listening to Lawyers, brought to you by the State Bar of Wisconsin's Lawyers Assistance Program (WisLAP) and hosted by WisLAP Program Manager Amber Ault, join us for an inspiring conversation with Jennifer Lee Edmondson, a litigator and founder of Health Education and Welfare. Jennifer shares her personal journey through a stage four metastatic breast cancer diagnosis, her resilience, and the founding of her nonprofit to support those with lymphedema. Discover how her legal training helped her navigate this challenging path and the unexpected support she received along the way.

    Key Topics:

    • Jennifer's cancer diagnosis and treatment experience
    • The role of family and community support
    • Founding a nonprofit to aid lymphedema patients
    • Leveraging legal skills in personal health battles

    Chapters:

    00:00 Introduction to Jennifer Lee Edmondson

    00:47 The Diagnosis Journey

    05:50 Navigating Treatment and Medical Team

    11:35 Challenges of Chemotherapy

    17:01 Support Systems and Community

    23:02 Finding Hope and Remission

    28:53 Creating a Nonprofit from Adversity

    35:02 Legal Training and Personal Resilience

    40:21 Unsung Heroes and Community Support

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    46 mins
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