Episodios

  • Episode 4: From Fields of Coal to the Fields of Law: Work-Life Integration and Family with Aviva Kaiser
    Oct 30 2025

    In this episode of Listening to Lawyers, a special project of the State Bar's Wisconsin Lawyer Assistance Program (WisLAP), attorney Aviva Kaiser shares her inspiring journey from a childhood in a Pennsylvania coal mining town to building a prominent and unconventional career in the legal field. She discusses her experiences with work-life integration, the importance of establishing guiding principles, and the challenges of balancing professional and family life. Aviva reflects on her activism and the role of law in her life, and offers valuable advice for future generations of lawyers, emphasizing the need for support and understanding in navigating the complexities of the legal profession.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Aviva Kaiser and Her Journey

    02:17 From Coal Mining Town to Law School

    04:37 Activism and the Pursuit of Justice

    07:06 Navigating Work-Life Integration as a Lawyer

    10:22 Establishing Guiding Principles for Life

    15:25 The Role of Law in Personal and Professional Life

    18:46 Creating Family Rituals and Quality Time

    22:21 Living with Less: Prioritizing Family Over Wealth

    25:07 Reflections on Career Choices and Regrets

    29:29 Advice for Future Generations of Lawyers

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    35 m
  • Episode 3: Jennifer Lee Edmondson's Cancer Diagnosis and Treatment Journey
    Jul 25 2025

    In this episode of Listening to Lawyers, brought to you by the State Bar of Wisconsin's Lawyers Assistance Program (WisLAP) and hosted by WisLAP Program Manager Amber Ault, join us for an inspiring conversation with Jennifer Lee Edmondson, a litigator and founder of Health Education and Welfare. Jennifer shares her personal journey through a stage four metastatic breast cancer diagnosis, her resilience, and the founding of her nonprofit to support those with lymphedema. Discover how her legal training helped her navigate this challenging path and the unexpected support she received along the way.

    Key Topics:

    • Jennifer's cancer diagnosis and treatment experience
    • The role of family and community support
    • Founding a nonprofit to aid lymphedema patients
    • Leveraging legal skills in personal health battles

    Chapters:

    00:00 Introduction to Jennifer Lee Edmondson

    00:47 The Diagnosis Journey

    05:50 Navigating Treatment and Medical Team

    11:35 Challenges of Chemotherapy

    17:01 Support Systems and Community

    23:02 Finding Hope and Remission

    28:53 Creating a Nonprofit from Adversity

    35:02 Legal Training and Personal Resilience

    40:21 Unsung Heroes and Community Support

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    46 m
  • Episode 2: Drinking Behind Closed Doors, After Billable Hours - Attorney April Toy's Recovery Story
    Apr 17 2025

    In this episode of Listening to Lawyers, trial attorney April Toy shares her personal journey with alcoholism and recovery. Growing up on a rural California farm, April faced numerous challenges before finding her path to law.

    She discusses her early experiences with alcohol, the tipping point that led her to seek help, and her journey through Alcoholics Anonymous. April emphasizes the importance of sharing her story to break the stigma surrounding alcoholism and hopes to inspire others facing similar struggles.

    Listening to Lawyers is a special project of the State Bar of Wisconsin's Lawyer Assistance Program (WisLAP). The podcast is hosted by WisLAP Program Manager Amber Ault.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Listening to Lawyers 00:29 Meet April Toy: A Journey to Law 12:16 The Role of Alcohol in April's Life 21:20 The Tipping Point: Acknowledging the Problem 30:17 Finding Recovery: The AA Experience 38:30 The Impact of Being a Lawyer on Recovery 39:52 Sharing the Story: Breaking the Stigma
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    44 m
  • Episode 1: From Montgomery to Milwaukee - The Journey of Lawyer Lindsey Draper
    Jan 28 2025

    In this opening episode of Listening to Lawyers, produced by the State Bar's Wisconsin Lawyer Assistance Program (WisLAP), attorney Lindsay Draper shares his journey through the legal profession, emphasizing the importance of lawyer wellness and mental health.

    He reflects on his upbringing, the influences that led him to law, and the challenges faced during law school. Lindsay discusses the critical need for self-care among lawyers and the impact of personal experiences on his commitment to supporting others in the legal community. WisLAP Program Manager Amber Ault hosts Listening to Lawyers.

    Key Takeaways
    • The legal profession offers opportunities to help others.
    • Personal experiences shape our professional journeys.
    • Law school can be a challenging transition for many.
    • Lawyer well-being is essential for effective practice.
    • Self-care is not selfish; it's necessary for lawyers.
    • Support systems play a crucial role in recovery.
    • The lawyer wellness movement aims to prevent crises.
    • Caring for oneself enhances the ability to care for clients.
    • Personal stories can inspire change in the legal community.
    • The impact of a lawyer can extend beyond the courtroom.
    Chapters 00:00: Introduction to Lawyer Wellness 01:24: Lindsay Draper's Journey to Law 08:09: Influences and Inspirations in Law 16:16: Navigating Law School Challenges 22:29: The Importance of Lawyer Well-Being 34:12: Personal Reflections on Self-Care
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    43 m