In today's episode, it's a continuation from last week's discussion about process.

We begin by talking about Amelia Earhart and the new book SHE WAS NEVER LOST; THE AMELIA EARHART SAGA.

Jennifer and I never plan what we're going to talk about, and when Amelia shows up to talk about the book, I can do nothing more than listen.

The rest speaks for itself.

It's interesting that we invited Paul Rubens to come and speak to us - but he wasn't ready to (Pee Wee Herman), and then Jennifer saw Ozzy and Hulk Hogan entering the classroom - but neither of them were ready to speak to us either.

It just shows how we don't plan what we're going to speak about. People show up and speak when they're ready to - or when Luana Anders says they're ready to - after all she's the one with the clipboard.

So today's episode was about Jennifer's work with law enforcement and also how the book came together over the past 30 years.

I'm not trying to sell anyone a copy - but the point is, we can all speak to, learn new information from people offstage.

Hope this helps someone!

Another mind bending episode.

We continue talking about process where we left off last week, Jennifer talking about her gratitude meditation that she does every night and again in the morning that keeps her on an even keel.

I asked Luana Anders, our moderator on the flipside if she had anyone who might want to chat with us. She said Amelia Earhart was here to talk about the book I've just released; "She Was Never Lost: The Amelia Earhart Saga."

Now that may sound weird to some - but we never plan our podcasts. And then Jennifer held up her phone and played a clip of the actress Gwyneth Paltrow reading the Kindle version of my book aloud..

That was MIND BLOWING - it comes from the "speechify app" - where you can choose who is going to narrate your book, and as a writer/director/author - who has taken around Amelia Earhart projects for years... I can't tell you how cool that is to hear GP's voice.

Our kids went to preschool with hers and I'd see and her mom around the school. I never spoke with her, but she's got a great voice - and hearing her speaking the lines from the book was... I don't know how to put it other than "otherworldly."

Because I've written some of the book in 1st person - based on 30 years of researching AE's story, just "giving it a shot" as to what it might sound like for me to "channel" (it's a loose word, I'm not claiming I'm doing that, but it's like that) the great aviator.

Then - Jennifer - who has done this before (it's in the transcripts in the book!) said "She's referring to Chapter Five. Well - that is the chapter where I speak in Amelia's voice.

While speaking to her through Jennifer 10 years ago, I had a copy of "Soaring Wings" by George Putnam in my hand - and Jennifer said "Something she wants to point to in pg 49." So I looked it up and read it - and Jennifer said "I could hear her voice while you were speaking as if she wrote that passage."

The passage was about a fellow involved with planning her "Last Flight." What makes it so very odd is that I named the name that is in the book - and when I looked him up, I found he was the owner of an aviation company. But a few days ago, before finishing the book, I had a feeling to look that up again.

Turns out the name was WRONG! And the person who she met with was a famous spy craft designer - who designed the U2 and other spy planes - head of the "Skunk Works" unit - and this guy redesigned her fuel tanks for her long distance trip!

What are the odds that I would hear Jennifer mention a page, then TEN YEARS LATER revisit that page, and then learn that the page was inaccurate, it was referring to the CIA super designer who created all of the spy planes we use! (I know it sounds uncanny, but it happened a couple of days ago!)

Anyways, I'm flattered she appreciates the book, I'm flattered that my old boss and mentor Robert Towne says he helped me with the book - and all of it, just every part of it is truly mind bending.

Thanks for tuning in!

Every now and then Luana suggests an unusual topic rather than bringing someone forward to speak with us. In this case, she wanted to talk about the process of communication with people offstage.

Jennifer speaks about her process, working with law enforcement, and how she gets information from people offstage and passes it along to a particular person who works with an agency - and then they take those visuals, impressions, and dig through the known aspects of a particular case.

The law enforcement person is in charge of what information should be followed up on, what aspects of what Jennifer says that should be followed up. Sometimes it's like working on a procedural television series - each week it's more information, more clues... sometimes it's given to her in a download, as much information as possible.

Sometimes it's bits and pieces as the person who is offstage is learning how to communicate. Needless to say, the law enforcement cases are also driven by emotions and a time element, especially when someone is missing.

Jennifer speaks of how she tries to not judge whatever comes in - and report objectively what she's hearing, sensing or seeing. In our work together, when someone comes in that is known to our "class" or group of individuals we've spoken to on the flipside, they are assisted by friends (and Luana) in how to translate their thoughts into visuals so that Jennifer can pick up what they're imparting and translate that into a sentence.

As she notes, she can misinterpret a visual... or later, it becomes clear what that visual was meant to impart. Almost the way a translator takes language and turns it into sign language for the hard of hearing, or those without sound.

Each gestures carries meaning, and we string together that is being said or passed along.

We never plan what we're going to talk about prior to the session... unless something happens to me (Like sensing someone in the room, and hearing them say something like Brian Wilson did when I felt I heard him say "I'd be honored to be on your podcast."

Odd way of saying "I'd like to pass messages along to my loved ones" but Brian was someone who spoke with a different vocabulary as everyone knows.

But for those who are curious why we "talk often to celebrities" - that's not always the case. Other than Luana, who is a pretty cool example of someone who is a celebrity on the flipside for her ability to help people communicate with loved ones onstage.

To book a session with JenniferShaffer.com or to book a guided meditation with RichardMartini.com - we're both available for private conversations.

We did a podcast in Jennifer's office in Manhattan Beach, lensed by Max Carlson who is in the midst of making a documentary about spirituality.

We talk a bit about Jennifer's birthday week - and ask Luana Anders on the flipside how they celebrate birthdays over there. One of Jennifer's friend's son stopped by, the actor Eddie Hassell, and then others weigh in with birthday wishes - Prince,and then a long conversation with Paul Newman about racing, and then a discussion with the actor Charles Grodin about a screening I went to last week about him - the documentary film REBEL WITH A CAUSE by James Freedman.

Then an unusual visit from Amelia Earhart to congratulate me on finishing my book about her. It's something we've talked about in the past, but I didn't ask, and Jennifer didn't know that I had finished it and am about to publish it.

So that was nice to hear!

As noted, we do this podcast to demonstrate to folks how easy it is to talk to people offstage. No reason not to learn how to do that effectively.

It's that time of year when our pal Jennifer Shaffer hits another milestone. In this podcast Luana Anders and Jennifer's parents Jim and Linda stopped by to say hello and remind her of their being close by at all times.

A visit from Kobe and Amelia to weigh in on a couple of questions, but mostly a discussion of how to stay in touch with people offstage.

Jennifer works with law enforcement agents nationwide on a daily basis and once a week takes time out to talk about the process and what she's learned doing this kind of work.

One can book a session with Jennifer or attend one of her "Uncorked" events in Manhattan Beach via her website JenniferShaffer.com - one can book a guided meditation over zoom with Rich via his website RichardMartini.com

Thanks for tuning in and Happy Birthday to Jennifer!!!

Another mind bending podcast. In this we begin by talking about our recent appearance at Contact in the Desert. I did a guided meditation with a law enforcement person who reached out to me today to talk about something that occurred to him. He knew someone in the midst of the conflagration in downtown LA, and based on something we discussed at the convention, he did a meditation where he "asked his higher self to ask the higher selves of some of the rioters" to leave the scene. He was surprised to later hear that they had mysteriously shifted direction and wondered if it was possible to affect change with that kind of intent. Jennifer talked about the power of prayer, and I talked a bit about the effectiveness of meditation.

Then we asked our moderator Luana Anders if anyone wanted to stop by; and Prince stopped by. We said happy birthday to him, and I asked if he was stopping by because of a recent musician who had left the planet.

He said "no." I asked Luana if she was aware of who I was talking about even if Jennifer was not. She said she was. I started to say I had "heard this person's voice" in my kitchen yesterday saying "I'd be honored to be on your podcast."

It was such a weird thing to hear, and since I've had a bad cold, I got emotional repeating the story. Apologies for getting choked up.

Then Jennifer realized who this "Brian" was. Having been a music reviewer at Variety for some years I talked about a concert I'd reviewed, and am familiar with the documentaries (Frank Marshall's) about his life, and "Love and Mercy" with my Chicago pal John Cusack.

I had many questions for Brian, including his mental issues, and he said they were related to the idea that he was "born without musical filters" and like some others we've interviewed, said "He was also hearing music since he was a child." (See the book TUNING INTO THE AFTERLIFE)

I asked him if he had a message for our mutual friend Van Dyke Parks (whom I last saw at Sally Kellerman's funeral) and when I asked him who he was surprised to see on the flipside, it was a name we've heard many times in our group; Aretha.

I asked Aretha about a story I heard Cynthia Erivo tell yesterday on the BBC about Aretha coming backstage to sing to her. It was interesting to hear Aretha downplay the event, since it was so meaningful to Cynthia. Also Brian said he had met many others, or was in the process of meeting people, including John Lennon (He'd met the Beatles, but said he and John weren't close) but pointed out that he'd just gotten home and there were a lot of people to see.

I apologized for peppering him with questions, then tried to tell him about being in a grocery store yesterday in Santa Monica, told the staff he had passed (they all reacted) I shouted to the manager "Can you put on some Beach Boys in honor of Brian?" and he did. And everyone in the store began to sing.

It make me think of getting a pick up truck with massive Marshall speakers and drive around the National Guard playing the Beach Boys which they would appreciate and love as well. The music makes people happy.

Just another mind bending half hour at the office. Thank you Jennifer for your talents!

Another one of those mind bending podcasts. We begin by reviewing our visit to Contact In the Desert over the weekend, where we did a lecture and a workshop. (Both are available at the ContactInTheDesert.com website)

In our lecture members of the audience asked questions from Jennifer and in the workshop, our moderator on the Flipside brought someone who is from another planet.

In that case, Jennifer could see this "green glowing light" that turned into a humanoid looking being when I asked for it to "manifests as someone that Jennifer could see." He self identified as "Nojah" - someone who is from the "Pleiadian group of planets."

He shows up again in our podcast, after a visit from Prince... when asked what he wanted to speak about, Prince said "well you invited the class to come to Contact in the Desert, so I was there." Jennifer talked about the "crowds of people" that were there - not only the folks walking around to visit the events, but those folks on the flipside "accompanying them."

Then our new friend Nojah showed up - spoke about the idea that humans experience things in a tactile way, and how we can share that information, experience with our higher selves, which shares it with people who are curious about it.

He spoke about the idea of the multiverse - which I took to mean that there are many dimensions in any given space at any given time, so there's a lot of different people who can access events simultaneously. Jennifer took it to mean the idea the multiverse represents us in different time frames, different profiles. I've heard the proviso "Well, we only get one life at a time, otherwise we wouldn't learn anything."

(Which may or may not be accurate, I'm just reporting).

We then had a visit from two folks who've visited the podcast before; "Ma Durga" - the 8 armed teacher of astrophysics and other classes, and "5" the self identified "head librarian." I tossed a couple of questions in their direction, and 5 said in order to communicate with him "Pray, but not in the religious sense" - which I assume means a version of "meditate with purpose" - and when asked to clarify, said "I already answered this" and then said "Yes, it helps to have a mediator" (which could be a hypnotherapist, medium or someone doing a guided meditation.)

All of it mind bending.

Hope this helps!

A Memorial Day weekend podcast. Michael Hutchence, who passed in 1997 stopped by to say hello. He said that he wanted to "talk about death" but it wasn't until I was uploading this I realized he was referring to "a day where we remember people who have passed away."

I mentioned that we had spoken to him briefly before, that transcript is in one of our Backstage Pass to the Flipside conversations - if memory serves me it was a brief conversation about his crossing over unexpectedly.

In today's podcast he talks about who greeted him on the other side, and what that was like - as well as the perspective he has now after this amount time has gone by. He mentioned how in the interim he's realized that he had planned to "leave early" - not that the events is chosen in advance, but that there's the aspect of "returning home."

When asked about that, he talked about already being back on the planet in there different individuals. While this may sound unusual - it's not unheard of. We bring only a percentage of our conscious energy to a lifetime - the average is between 20 and 40% (based on interviews) - but that leaves behind 60 to 80% of our conscious energy - so in essence, we can do multiple journeys at the same time.

It's rare, I've only spoken to a few individuals who are aware of participating in that sort of journey - but it has been reported. The point is that those individuals won't meet each other, but they will experience things to learn or teach lessons.

In this case, Michael said he was back as a "homeless person" as well as a saxophonist living in London named Louis. (Or Luis).

Anyways, we had a lively discussion about that aspect of how consciousness functions or incarnations works.

Then Elvis stopped by - and also wanted to discuss his journey. I reminded him how he had returned to visit us a few years after our first conversation to talk about the unborn child that greeted him on the other side, and how he felt such overwhelming unconditional love during that experience.

I asked him some questions about that - and then Jennifer's father in law stopped by and had some observations for her - and her father told her that he had told this gentleman that the only time Jennifer "believes she's talking to us" was on our podcast.

Another mind bending adventure. Happy Memorial day and thanks for tuning in! And a reminder, we're appearing at Contact in the Desert this weekend, a lecture on Friday at 11 am (May 30th) and a workshop demonstration on Saturday at 11 am (May 31st, 2025).

Enjoy!