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We’re back in —and diving deeper into Joey Stabile’s Working Together Doesn’t Work, focusing on the Processing Center and what it reveals about how different types move through the world.

In this episode, we begin a discussion on Eights, Threes, and Ones—the “doing processors.” What does it mean to process through action? What gets gained—and what gets left behind—when execution becomes the primary lens for evaluating life?

We explore Joey’s framework of support centers—how doing can be backed by thinking or feeling—and how that shapes the differences between types that, on the surface, look similar. Along the way, we unpack:

1. Why Eights often feel misunderstood—and what’s actually happening beneath their intensity
2. The tension between execution and emotion in doing types
3. How Threes, Eights, and Ones differ in their relationship to results, relationships, and responsibility
4. Whether the “ends justify the means”—and how each type defines both ends and means differently
5. The hidden cost of prioritizing action over reflection or connection

This conversation slows down to wrestle with real language, real experience, and the deeper structure behind how we assess: Am I good in the world?

We’ll pick up next time with Threes and Ones—but for now, we stay with the Eights, and what it means to move through life with force, clarity, and blind spots we don’t always see.

The beginning of the end! In this episode, Katie talks with Luke, a pastry chef turned mental health counselor.

We talk about several differences between 3 and 9, and spend a lot of time diving into what it means for a 9 to "wake up" and start chasing after their own life.

Luke has an incredible knack for explaining difficult concepts, so this is a good one to listen to if you want to understand the 9s in your life.

What are we really talking about when we talk about the Enneagram?

In this Morning Show conversation, we move past surface-level typing and into something deeper—transformation, self-awareness, and the courage to face what’s actually being exposed in us.

We explore:

1. Why the Enneagram is more than insight—it’s a tool for real-time self-awareness
2. The difference between knowing your patterns and interrupting them
3. How unconscious motivations shape our lives (and how to bring them into the light)
4. Why “what do I want?” might be one of the most powerful questions you can ask
5. The tension between shared human flourishing and personal transformation
6. How each type filters reality—and what that means for relationships, emotions, and growth

Along the way, we engage ideas from Carl Jung, Brené Brown, and Dr. Daniel Siegel’s Personality and Wholeness in Therapy, while also diving into the practical, lived experience of using the Enneagram.