Michael Shahan to talk about what happens in the therapy room when “something different needs to happen” – and how our Enneagram type often **gets in the way* * of real transformation.

We look at the sneaky ways ego disguises itself as “doing the work,” why simply venting or collecting tools isn’t the same as change, and how type-patterns show up when clients resist the very shifts they say they want.

We walk around the circle:

• how 4s, 5s, and 9s can get trapped in their inner world,
• how 1s, 2s, and 6s outsource their thinking and chase shoulds and diagnoses,
• how 3s, 7s, and 8s try to outrun their feelings with action and efficiency.

Along the way we talk about finding the right therapist, balancing the three centers, working with your repressed center through tiny “micro-moves,” and why noticing your patterns is often the first hard step. We also name a hard truth: Enneagram knowledge isn’t the same as doing the work.

If you’ve ever wondered, “Why do I know my type and still feel stuck?” this one’s for you.

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Katie talks to her friend Kayci about what it feels like to be a reactive doer. We talk obligation, anger, and the struggle of juggling what you want vs the expectations of others.

In this far-reaching Type Four conversation, Kristen Messegee sits down with Enneagram coach Monique Lacoste to explore the inner landscape of one of the most mythologized and misunderstood Enneagram types.

Together they trace what it means to carry intensity, to read truth on every level, and to live with the emotional realness of the emotionally responsive types.

Monique opens the door to the lived experience of Fours: the search for authenticity, the pull toward beauty, the cultivation of mood, and the complicated dance between internal image and external mirroring. She speaks candidly about anger, passion, shame, envy, and the surprising ways these show up in real relationships, conflict, creativity, and self-understanding.

They look at Tri-Fixes, instinct theory, attachment patterns, emotional truth-telling—and remaining grounded in story, vulnerability, and real-time discovery.