You Think You Know Me

The True Story of Herb Baumeister and the Horror at Fox Hollow Farm
Narrated by: Steve White
Length: 3 hrs and 42 mins
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In the fall of 1994, Erich Baumeister (13), was playing in a wooded area of his family’s estate, when he stumbled across a partially buried human skeleton. He presented the disturbing finding to his mother, Julie, who inquired about the skull to her husband, Herb. He told her that the skeleton belonged to his late father, an anesthesiologist, who used it for his research. He said he didn’t know what to do with it, so he buried it in the back garden. Astonishingly, Julie believed him.  

Over the course of 18 months, Julie became increasingly concerned and even frightened by her husband's mood swings and erratic behavior. In June 1996, whilst Herb was on vacation, she granted police full access to her family’s 18-acre home. Within 10 days of the search, investigators uncovered the remains of 11 bodies.  

Once news of the findings at Fox Hollow Farm was broadcast, Herb disappeared. He was missing for eight days when campers eventually found his body inside his car. In an apparent suicide, Herb had shot himself while parked at Pinery Park, Ontario. He wrote a three-page suicide note explaining his reasons for taking his life, which he attributed to his failing marriage and business. There was no mention of the victims scattered in his backyard.  

Herb Baumeister would later be alleged to have killed at least nine more men along the Interstate 70 between Indiana and Ohio, and coined the “I-70 Strangler”. It is entirely possible that he was one of the most prolific serial killers in history, but because of his perpetual cowardice in the face of scrutiny, the world will never know.  

In You Think You Know Me, best-selling author Ryan Green assumes the role of Herb Baumeister and attempts to fill in the blanks on one of Indiana’s most mysterious serial killers. 

©2018 Ryan Green (P)2018 Ryan Green
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Too short

Good narration and good story but probably could have gone much more in depth with the investigation. A very short book, more like a podcast and not worth my entire months credit.

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Problematic but Hard to Put Down

If you approach this book as just a pulpy, salacious read- it’s actually quite good. Green is a talented writer who knows how to construct prose that really draws the listener in, add to that a narrator who might be the best I’ve heard and you’ve got yourself a very entertaining listen with no filler that flows at a nice pace.
But- if you are approaching this as a work of factually correct non-fiction, you’re going to walk away incredibly misinformed.

Green spends long sections describing situations and conversations that are completely fabricated- where both parties involved are dead and there’s no way of knowing what transpired, even via interviews and second-hand information. He also adds necrophilia as part of Baumeister’s MO and there’s no record whatsoever of that either. It seems rather unnecessary when the murders were salacious without the addition.

I ended up giving this 3 stars because despite the problem I have with inserting huge chunks of fiction into a true crime book, I found it difficult to stop listening. It’s very graphic and it’s not for everybody, but if you’re familiar with the case, it’s worth a listen.

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Erotic Asphyxiation Will Kill You

My wife is an ID channel hound and considers herself a Murderino, so I am forced to watch a lot of true crime shows. Typically I tune them out because I just don’t care, but I wanted to give this story a try. This book has added another genre of story to my listening queue. Huge horror fan and this felt like a great twisted horror story that happens to possibly be true. Given the lack of trial and no actual confession this book tells a story that may be quite different than reality, although this is easily a terrifying fictitious horror story.
I totally was looking up stuff on Herb on the internet while listening to this. Realized toward the end I have seen paranormal shows on his Fox Hollow Farm home and have already sought out more. As someone who rarely dabbles into real crime this was a great story to get into the whole genre with.
I really liked how this story was told. It wasn’t as if this was just the facts and let’s lay it out for you. This was a speculative story on what happened, complete with dialogue and specific occurrences. The overall arching story is most likely true, but it came across as an actual story which made it interesting, tense, and something I couldn’t stop listening to. There are parts of this story that are a bit hard to listen to. Actually had my headphone jack fall out of my phone in a particularly bad spot and was terrified my phone would start spouting off about what was happening and HR would be called. So PSA be careful where you listen. There are some scenes in this that aren’t for the average person. True crime and extreme horror folks may be desensitized to some of this but there are some parts that are not easy to listen to.
The narrator was great. I felt like his voice wasn’t the typical I hear for true crime shows and he made the story actually sound like a story. He didn’t offer much for character voices but he added inflection and cadence for the characters and it worked well. He did well for this style of story and I hope to find him again in true crime.
I was voluntarily provided this free review copy audiobook by the author, narrator, or publisher.

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No One Truly Knew Him ...

What a story! Who would have ever suspected him...the businessman, the quiet average suburban family guy? I saw a documentary concerning this case, and found that this book had WAY more details! I thoroughly enjoyed the overall format. It was as if you were told what happened by the actual killer himself. Easy to close your eyes and just imagine being there. Creepy.

The narrator was an excellent choice for this! Perfect! This was gifted to me in exchange for an honest review, and honestly I DID like this one a lot! Definitely would listen again!

This book is ALSO part of a boxed crime collection set (Volume #2) so if you want an extra bang for your credit-buck, I’d get that, so you can have 3 MORE great stories! You won’t be disappointed :)

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Full of speculation

This book employs a narrative style similar to fictional novels that feels out of place with true crime. It describes encounters and experiences of victims that died and therefore are mostly if not almost entirely speculation. Because of this I found it nearly impossible to discern what was factual from details the author imagined and added in an attempt to tell a “compelling” story, which almost entirely ruins the point of true crime.

The narration was well done, with the narrator having a truly creepy laugh that added to some scenes and fit the style of the narrative.

I was given this free review copy audiobook at my request and have voluntarily left this review.

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Great!!

Thoroughly enjoyed listening to this book!! I absolutely love your stuff and true crime particularly!! You are one of my favorite true crime go-to authors around!!

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An Amazing Hypothetical and Fact Reconstruction

This is a story about a very sick, twisted and psychotic individual. I have read a few reviews that complain about no citation of resources but if they had listened to the end they would have heard the narrator say that this book was written from what evidence was found and what research that could be done. It amazes me just how dark and twisted the human mind can become for a variety of reasons. Just like the author states...the only person who will ever know exactly how many Herb Baumiester killed and what all atrocities he did to the bodies will only be known by one person...and he took the coward's way out in the end. If you enjoy True Crime books then I think this will be one for you. As a few reviews have pointed out, there are descriptive possible sex scenes but they are told to help the reader/listener to understand just how messed up Herb Baumeister really was.


I was given this free review copy audio book at my request and have voluntarily left this review.

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A Different Twist on the True Crime Drama

This is all about an killer that never went to trial. Technically that makes him a supposed killer but, let's face it, he made sure he couldn't be. Anyway, it was a good way to tell the story. I did find it a touch confusing. I wish that the timeline and characters were a little more defined.

This was still an interesting take on the story and told the tale of this mysterious killer.

NOTE: I was given this free review copy audiobook at my request and have voluntarily left this review.

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Confusing timeline

This isn't an especially interesting case, partly because there are so few facts known about what really happened. Also, some of the detail presented in this book must be purely speculation. Furthermore, Ryan Green neglected to include many dates, making it almost impossible to comprehend the timeline of events. At under 4 hours, it's a quick listen, though.

Steve White's performance is Satisfyingly competent.

NOTE: I was given this free review copy audiobook at my request and have voluntarily left this review.

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FASCINATING, LOVED IT!!!

This was a very well written and well thought-out book, and the narration was EXCELLENT. I'm a big fan of true crime & horror stories, so this was right up my alley. It was a very creepy story, but one all too familiar if you've read a lot of serial killer books. But I very much enjoyed the writing, the way it was laid out, the narration was great, I really enjoyed it and recommend it to anyone who loves a good murder mystery :)
I was given this free review copy audiobook at my request and have voluntarily left this review.

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  • Rosemarie Cawkwell
  • 05-20-20

A lesser known but prolific murderer

That was quite a ride. I'd never heard of this particular serial killer, which is unusual, because I've heard of some really obscure ones. Incredibly sadistic and prolific, Herb Baumeister raped and murdered hitchhikers and gay men he picked up in bars. He was only caught because parents and friends of victims went to a private investigator who wouldn't let go. Only one survivor ever escaped, and he went to the investigator with his story. Together with the only detective willing to help, from the missing person department, they tracked down the address where he'd been taken and found out the name of the owner.

This is a case that clearly illustrates the concept of the 'lesser dead'. The victims were runaways, hitchhikers, sex workers and gay men, considered to be engaging in a dangerous and deviant lifestyle, so the police wanted nothing to do with them.

Well read as always, although the narrator gas some very idiosyncratic pronunciations of fairly common words. Pp

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  • Emily
  • 05-02-20

Good

I was given this free review copy audiobook at my request and have voluntarily left this review.

I think what Green did really well with this novel was portray how normal serial killers could be. Baumeister could have continued killing for years more if he'd been able to maintain his mask of normalcy. What I found quite interesting in this book was the author's idea that Baumeister was able to separate his personality so he had light and dark which is how he managed to maintain his normalcy for such a long period.

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  • deafmick
  • 04-03-20

As all ways 100 % I hope there is a lot more to come 100 %

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  • Elizabeth Frounks
  • 08-14-19

Chilling

Ryan Green is fast becoming one of my favourite horror writers. Him and Steve White (the narrator) do such an amazing job with these types of stories.

If you didn't know better, it is easy to think that Ryan managed to get a conversation in with Herb Baumeister, it is just so realistic and the thought process shown feels so true that it is crazy to think that it was all Ryan's doing. Ryan, who I will recommend to anyone, does a wonderful job looking into these stories.

*I was given this free review copy audiobook at my request and have voluntarily left this review.

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  • Ostfeld
  • 05-27-18

Powerful !!

“ Powerful !!! “

Ryan Green has done it again,
The way he writes is amazing you can totally feel everything that’s going on in his style of writing and not only feel but also understand which is not an easy feat to accomplish.
There is so much you can learn about people and even yourself reading his books.
You don’t have to be gay or a murderer to understand how growing up, under which circumstance and even your surroundings do effect your personality for the rest of your life, Ryan Green explains it perfectly in his books.
Steve White completes it beautifully with his perfect narration.

This book is Fully recommend.


For an honest review I’ve accepted this Audiobook for free.

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  • Karen
  • 07-01-18

A Great Listen

Part fact and part assumption. I loved this book, and find it slightly scarey how the author seems to have got inside a serial killers head.

I feel that the story is unfinished, not due to the author, but due to Herb's suicide without ever speaking about his crimes, and I feel for any families that have unanswered questions, that they will never get the answers too.

It also made me look at the people around me, and question just how well can you ever know someone?

I was given this book in exchange for an honest review