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Through Fiery Trials

Safehold, Book 10
Narrated by: Jonathan Davis
Length: 32 hrs and 34 mins
4 out of 5 stars (479 ratings)
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With new alliances forged and old regimes fractured, Merlin - the cybernetic avatar of Earth's last survivor and immortal beacon to humanity - and the colonies of Safehold have many adventures ahead in Through Fiery Trials, the continuation of David Weber's New York Times best-selling military science-fiction series. 

Those on the side of progressing humanity through advanced technology have finally triumphed over their oppressors. The unholy war between the small but mighty island realm of Charis and the radical, Luddite Church of God's Awaiting has come to an end. However, even though a provisional veil of peace has fallen over human colonies, the quiet will not last. For Safefold is a broken world, and as international alliances shift and Charis charges on with its precarious mission of global industrialization, the shifting plates of the new world order are bound to clash.  

Yet an uncertain future isn't the only danger Safehold faces. Long-thought-buried secrets and prophetic promises come to light, proving time is a merciless warden who never forgets.  

Safehold series:

  1. Off Armageddon Reef 
  2. By Schism Rent Asunder 
  3. By Heresies Distressed 
  4. A Mighty Fortress 
  5. How Firm a Foundation 
  6. Midst Toil and Tribulation 
  7. Like a Mighty Army 
  8. Hell's Foundations Quiver 
  9. At the Sign of Triumph 
  10. Through Fiery Trials
©2018 David Weber (P)2019 Macmillan Audio

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I miss Oliver Wyman

While I enjoyed the story, every time Davis misprounced the words "Terran" and "Tellesberg", or was inconsistent with the accents of various characters, I wanted to throttle him. This series has had 5 different narrators by now and while I remember the egregious mistake Wyman did on the previous novel, he still managed to maintain a high degree of consistency in his performance. And Davis' performance bothered me enough to consider returning the audio book and just get an electronic copy. His voice was however as pleasant as others and wasn't as droning and sleep inducing as the narrator for the 5th novel so I hope he talks to the author about pronunciation and accents if he stays on for the next book.

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Please hire Oliver Wyman as narrator and keep him!

I was so excited to see that there was going to be more in this series. I start to listen to this book and was like darn a new narrator...but no problem.

Wrong!
Character voices sound like a western cowboys at times. Harchong voices are good though.
Mispronunciation of (well established) names and places.
A few mispronunciation of normal words. ex. monastery hes says mom ustery

The constant mispronunciation of names and places will grates your nerves. This is the 10th book in the series. Take the time and listen to how the names have been pronounced in the previous books. I'm going to try and push threw this and hope the next book has a better narrator....PLEASE LET IT BE OLIVER WYMAN

**UPDATE: I will be returning this book. Narrator has ruined this book. Also read on Weber forums that Oliver Wyman will not be narrating any more of Webers books because of a added line in the 9th book. Weber got mad and picked this new guy.

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What About Contitunity?

I am writing this after only listening to the first few chapters and I'm probably not going to listen to the rest. If you haven't listened to the first 9 books then you shouldn't have any issues with the narration. If, however, you have listened to the rest of the series (4 times) you might wonder why the narrator didn't bother to listen to at least book 9. If he had he might not have changed every single character's personality, speech mannerisms, pausing, voice stresses and any other way possible I can think of to disconnect this book from the first 9. Why would the author let him do that? I am, for the first time, extremely disappointed with David Weber. Not for what he wrote but for what he allowed to happen to what he wrote.

I came back and changed the star rating after listening to just another half hour after writing the above. I can't believe, and I really can't believe, how terrible the narration makes this book. I'm returning this one and trying to decide whether or not to read the book rather than listen to it.

I did it again. I went back and listened to 10 more minutes and felt I had to come back and say again...WHY!

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Turons of Tellsburg -J Davis' Fiery Trial

After Kevin T. Collins butchered every key pronunciation Midst Toil & Tribulation; I had to ponder if it was possible to do worse. Well, it is possible.

I don't understand it, Mr. Weber. Is it Mcmillan Audio that sticks you with a narrator like Collins or Davis? Is it ARROGANCE or IGNORANCE that gives us performances like these?

How hard would it be to insist a narrator listen to enough of Oliver Wyman's 5 narrations, Jason Culps 2, or even Charles Keating?
Collins was the worst up until now:
Nimue was NIM U AY
Merlin was Athraws not Ath thraw es.

Now Davis has Tell is burg as Tells burg and
Terran becomes TUR-ON :
Both of these say PIE KA instead of Peeca

I am a confirmed SAFEHOLD addict. I have the entire audio set on my FIRE tablet and the set has played through prior to every new release. I figure I've listened to most of the series 8 or 9 times. I truly enjoy and appreciate these incredibly dense and detailed works of art.

OLIVER WYMAN IS GREAT - Jason Culp is very fine - Charles Keating was not a problem - but hearing Collins and now Davis butcher key pronunciations is like fingernails on a blackboard.

I noticed Weber's note in my Honorverse Series concerning the pronunciations where he took the blame. I wonder how Weber or McMillian can put up with narrators who can't take the time to learn how to pronounce Narman, Charleyann, Nimue, Athrawes, Terran and Tellisburg?
Davis really butchers Twerio - PICA Nimue's chosen last name. THIS IS EMBARRASSING :oops:
I am certain I would not wish to offend Safehold audio listeners with butchered pronunciations. I cannot imagine the mindset of Collins or Davis. Is it arrogance or ignorance - The Wyman and Culp pronunciations are available in 7 40 hour novels. How hard would it be to get it right?

Who sits down to read a new addition to an established series without knowing how to pronounce the KEY NAMES?
THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THIS INATTITION TO DETAIL Weber's work is too good to be butchered like this.

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This reader KILLS, MURDERS, DESTROYS this story.

Not sure I can even go beyond this first hour! Cannot stand to listen to this one. Get a different narrator!!!!!
And at this rate I will be returning this before I can even finish the book.

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Wonderfully detailed, interesting and fulfilling

I read and listen to all of theses books in the Safehold series because these so much detail, so much color, perspectives and angles. Safehold is a big story connected to reality in typical human behavior. Character development is sold The development of the story is paced well and it flows in ways that you can follow and make sense. Thank goodness there's humor and love to balance

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The new narrator threw me

I am about 10 hours into the book, I am considering just reading the rest on my own and listening to something else when I drive because the narrator is pronouncing names differently and giving characters different accents that what I am use to with the series. I know this is the 4th or 5 narrator for the these books, so I am use to change.

Don’t get me wrong, the narrator did a great job of speaking clear and smoothly. It breaks the immersion for me when I am correcting his pronunciation however I would suggest skipping this one. I always listen to the previous books in the series before a new one is released so this might not be an issue for others.

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This narrator killed the story dead

He mispronounces everything! God this is hard to get through, really really hard. I had to force myself to listen because I love the story, but this narrator butchered everything! He must not have listened to any previous books or talked to the author at all about pronunciation. What a horrible thing to do to such an amazing story. Very disappointed and very let down.

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Nothing happened

The entire book could have summarized in a 30 minutes epilogue of the last book, and nothing substantial would have been missed. Loved the series, but this book, especially after the wait, was a big disappointment. I didn't mind the narrator though.

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A snoozer

This one was a real snoozer. Lots of people have been giving Jonathan Davis a hard time for some poor pronunciation choices and inconsistencies with the previous books. I thought Mr. Davis did a good job, yes some of the pronunciations were inconsistent or wrong, but it was still enjoyable to listen to. The real problem was the lack of anything approaching excitement. In this massive novel there was one painfully short burst of excitement. I find the story idea of this series to be tremendous but I’m often disappointed with the execution. If you like meetings upon meetings that generate mountains of dialogue then you will love this. Don’t get me wrong, I’ll continue the series. I’m too far into quit now. I am truly interested in what will happen next. I just wish it happened with a little more excitement and a little less talking.

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  • Steve
  • 01-24-19

Probably the most tedious in the series so far.

Let's face it, if you have gotten this far (book 10) you - like me - will probably feel you kinda need to go on despite the flaws in this series. But 'Through Fiery Trials' is, unfortunately, probably the most tedious in the Safehold saga to date.

Be prepared to do a lot of fast forwarding through David Webber's excruciatingly irritating female characterisations in order to get to the 'good bits'. It's a mark of just how overinflated this book is that skipping segments in no way detracts from the reader's grasp of the overall storyline.

Despite the book's obvious negatives - however - I still give the story four stars as the basic premise (the core plot) is an intriguing one. Also, when the action finally gets going is is quite a 'ripping yarn'. I'll probably end up listening to more in this series and just grin and bear having to skip through the 'gooey' bits (to use one of Webber's own words).

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  • Leslie
  • 01-11-19

Narrator ruined the book

Mr Weber I hope you do read these reviews.
A waited for audiobook which failed to impress after the first few hours I regretted the purchase, all down to the Narrator I will have to eventually read the book instead and hope that is worth the purchase, I have all other books of the set 1 - 9 in hardback but the mistake of not listening to any narrator before accepting him to read the audiobook is a very disappointing newbie error, which Mr Weber should of learned but obviously has not, I don't expect the narrators to sound the same but I do expect continuity with pronunciation which I am sorry to say was totally missing.

I cannot in all honesty recommend this audio book my advice is wait for Mr Weber to realise and force another narrator or read in paper or kindle

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  • Len
  • 01-20-19

well, that's 32 hours of my life I won't get back.

The idea behind the Safehold series was good, and the first book set up a reasonable world building concept and story. Religion being a fundamental (sic) story prop. However the authors tendency for verbosity, religious fervour and rightwing ideals became more and more to the fore throughout the series culminating in this glorious example of republican propaganda.
The innumerable and unending descriptions of births and weddings amongst the squeaky clean "good guys" and their glorious altruism was too good to be true. The characters without exception being one dimensional and unbelievable.. no faults of character.. all perfect examples of humankind spreading the word of God to the unbelievers and misguided heathens....
I stuck through it because I have never quit on a book that I've bought, but here I was seriously tempted. Of the 400 + audio books I've purchased this is one of the very few I've written a review about and the only one I would advise avoiding at all costs...
the narrator was reasonable and quite articulate except when attempting female voices. but no complaints.. I'll be sending this back for a credit refund...

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  • Adam
  • 02-13-19

Boring, boring, boring

First let me say that I love the series, the setting and that I’ve been buying Mr Weber’s books for over 20 years.

This is a 32 hour prologue. It feels overindulgent and overly wordy. What was his editor thinking?

It’s as if there is only two characters(despite there being about a billion), one very good and well meaning and the bad guy antagonist with no defining differences.

I highly recommend the previous books in the series but recommend skipping this one, you will be able to pick it up in the next ones introduction.

I’m also not sure why the narrator was changed, and I’m not sure that it would made any difference. He wasn’t bad but it wasn’t a positive.

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  • 01-19-19

Amazeballs.

AMAZEBALLS. I still love this story. The twist and turns are great. I am unhappy with the end of this book only because it is the end of the book, I never want this story to end.

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  • Ryan
  • 01-25-19

Overall an entirely pointless exercise

This story is over 30 hours of pointless filler. The entire plot of this story is 'things that happen between the end of the last book and the start of the next'. Without exaggeration this entire book could have been condensed into the epilogue of the last book or the preface of the next novel.

A summery of the plot is simple, time moves on, some nations that you would expect to prosper after the war do not do so well, some nations you would expect to collapse do surprisingly well. Characters grow older, some die, and children become adults.
Thing that is going to be the centre of the next story arc happens in the last chapter. The end.

Aside from the pointless nature of the story the execution feels so forced that the novel has no flow or consistency. One thing I have noticed with Webers novels of late is he lets the plot drive the characters rather than the other way around. Several previously young and healthy characters suffer from plot related heart attacks, and they are all heart attacks, leading to the collapse of previously strong or driven factions all for the purpose of setting up the authors next plot idea, meanwhile 90 year-old's continue strong because killing them will not advance the all important plot.
Meanwhile surviving characters seem to have no actual impact on the world outside of what the plot demands, Characters invest massive amounts of money into an economy to shore up its stability if the plot says it works then it works, if the plot says it fails then it fails.
This novel contributes nothing to the overall story that could not have been imparted in 2 or 3 chapters of catch-up material in the next book, instead we need to wade through hours of flowery prose explaining how the world need to change to make the next book work.

The Audible exclusive error was on the part of the narrator, so many words are mispronounced that it took several listens to work out some names and places based on story context. And it was not just the alphabet soup of story specific names and places that he was getting wrong, several common words where used ether incorrectly of just mispronounced. The narrator consistently mispronounce Terran as Terrain, something that just kept throwing me out of the story.
A few posts from the narrator indicate he was given a pronunciation guild in the leadup to recording however that guild was filled with inaccuracies and he was specifically instructed to use the Terrain pronunciation over the correct Terran.
My best guess on the errors is David Weber is known to use dictation software to write his novels and he has taken to using some very strange pronunciations to help the recognition software deal with made-up or uncommon words. If this phonetic guild was used that might explain the garble of words through out the story.

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