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Do "In God We Trust", the Declaration of Independence, and other historical "evidence" prove that America was founded on Judeo-Christian principles? Are the Ten Commandments the basis for American law? A constitutional attorney dives into the debate about religion's role in America's founding.
In today's contentious political climate, understanding religion's role in American government is more important than ever. Christian nationalists assert that our nation was founded on Judeo-Christian principles, and advocate an agenda based on this popular historical claim. But is this belief true? The Founding Myth answers the question once and for all.
Andrew L. Seidel, a constitutional attorney at the Freedom from Religion Foundation, builds his case point by point, comparing the Ten Commandments to the Constitution and contrasting biblical doctrine with America's founding philosophy, showing that the Bible contradicts the Declaration of Independence's central tenets. Thoroughly researched, this persuasively argued and fascinating book proves that America was not built on the Bible and that Christian nationalism is, in fact, un-American.
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- VIPER G
- 09-01-19
Just 2 Issues
This book is chock full of historical information, and well supported with references. I did enjoy the copious amount of little known details regarding the early years of our nation’s history. I have only two issues. One is that the announcer ruined the book in that, I felt like I was listening to a condescending, opinionated newscast from the 1960’s. The second being that there was often redundancy that caused the book to drag on. Those two reasons are certainly not deal-breakers, as this book is very well researched and presented. It is a type of book that can be listened to, many times over.
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- Brandy hamrick
- 07-23-19
Amazing book. Not a fan of the narrator.
As an adult who was indoctrinated into christian fundamentalism from birth, I feel like I've spent the last several years playing catch up on history and science. This book absolutely lays bare the lies that Christian nationalists depend on being true in order to perpetuate their brand of reality. I learned so many things that I would have never known otherwise, and got a much better grasp of many of the nebulous ideas of "church and state separation" and "religious freedom". I also really enjoyed the format he used; breaking down each commandment or Christian "virtue" and how it sits in conflict with American ideals.
I bought this book in both kindle and audible format so I could listen and go back to the text. My only criticism is that I was not a fan of the narrator's voice at all. Overall, every american citizen should read this book thoroughly, and with an open mind. Especially if you're a believer in the Christian God and the mythology of the christian founding.
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- Lori’s Stuff
- 08-14-19
Overflowing with historical information Countering the claim that America was founded Christian & should return to Christianity
Its almost impossible to choose a specific part, the entire book is so informative and valuable. I am learning so much from it. The amount of false historical information taught as fact to children in America breaks my heart, and blows my mind. I really like chapter seven. It’s important to correct the idea that Christianity is pure, good, has all the answers, and only Christians can be good and moral. This is not, and never was a Christian nation. Our secular government guarantees true freedom to all, not just a select few. Andrew L Seidel, and other like him, who are fighting the Christian nationalist hijacking of our great nation, are truly American patriots and hero’s, fighting to maintain freedom for all.
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- Richard Kemp
- 08-16-19
Scary and heartbreaking
Andrew’s book is a dive into the actual history of the United States. I shouldn’t be surprised that a group of people want to be in power but to use such underhanded techniques in disgusting. Read/listen to this book only if you want to know what’s been going on. Then educate yourself.
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- Allan H
- 12-29-19
Best Put Down Ever of Christian Nationalism
Andrew Seidel does the best job yet of breaking down the myth that America was founded on Christian biblical principles and that the founders were devoutly religious. Nothing could be farther from the truth. The intent of the founders has been steadily corrupted ever since, especially during the 20th century. Most relevant he exposes the dark threat creeping Christian Nationalism and the Christian Nationalist poster boy Donald Trump poses to our democracy . Great reading for the people who are free thinking, agnostic, religiously unafiliated or considering severing all ties with the religion they grew up with. Christian Nationalism propaganda and lies are everywhere in our culture. Time to blow this bullshit up and expose it for the tripe that is is.
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- Morgan Ryzen
- 11-18-19
The Founding of America Without the Myths
This is a well researched book that explains how and why the United States ended up with a secular government established for and by "We the People" all the while debunking the myth that our founding was in some way based on "Christian" principles. It's also a really good history lesson on the early settlers up through the founding era and as such should be taught in every high school in America.
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- Amazon Customer
- 08-24-19
Andrew closes the case on the argument.
This book so systematically shuts down every conceivable argument for the belief that the United States was founded as a Christian nation that he even covers the Pledge of Allegiance and the Oath of Office (both of which were not needed in my opinion). Fantastic book! Thoroughly useful as ammunition at family gatherings and water cooler debates!
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- Jonathan W.
- 08-04-21
just a rant, not an argument
sarcastic reading matching the ad hominum, cherry picked "quotes".
totally unbalanced christian and Catholic hater
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- Dan King
- 08-24-19
Comprehensive Case for a Secular Government
Andrew L Seidel systematically and comprehensively dismantles the myth that America was founded as a Christian nation, systematically dealing with every argument that is employed by promoters of this myth. In doing so, he also makes a strong case for the founder's intentions of a secular government, effectively showing why freedom of religion is only possible under a government that is free FROM religion. Some of the facts he establishes were ones I knew before reading the book, such as the origin of The Pledge of Allegiance and how it morphed into something else over time. Other facts were new to me such as how "In God We Trust" came to be on American currency. This is a must read if you support the separation of religion and government. And if you don't support the separation of religion and government, then you're not an American.
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- tim
- 07-11-19
An Important Work - Must Read
The Separation of State and Church has never been more important. This book details the myths surrounding historical fact and fiction. It’s an important read for both believers and non- believers to read. Thank you AS and FFRF for the work you do!
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- Anonymous User
- 01-25-23
Well researched & important right now.
With the rise of Christian Nationalism lately, during & after Trump, the facts against & rebuttals of their flimsy mythology enumerated in this book are more important than ever.
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- Msyed1
- 09-23-21
Excellent, if a little bitter
I cannot help but sympathise with the author’s bitterness towards what is certainly thee biggest contemporary threat to there great American experiment- Christian nationalism.
However, I think the author’s forays into theology and biblical exegesis may undermine his key thesis (which is absolutely correct), given the many religious Christians who will disagree with his textual explanations.
Nevertheless, this is an excellent take down of the modern, fanatical myth that America is a Christian nation- it is not and wouldn’t exist without rebellion against orthodoxy.
One can only hope that the Trump presidency has finally removed from all thinking people any sentiment towards American Evangelicalism.
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- EdieK
- 01-28-21
Interesting content, poor narration.
"Thou shalt not kill. Lie, steal and treat others as you want to be." Really?
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- Kindle Customer
- 10-11-20
A instant classic within its field
This book helps you have a better and more informed dialogue when arguing against those who would claim that the US constitution is based on Judeo-Christian principles.
Throughout the book you will find accessible arguments based on thorough and competent research from an expert in the field.
Lots of stars and two thumbs up.
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- Ken
- 04-22-22
Makes a very, very strong case
Very compelling.
Interesting, and well researched. The only thing wrong with this book is the people who need to read it, won't.
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- Jo Taylor
- 01-21-22
Well written with coherent structure
This book is, as expected, well researched, thorough and clearly written.
I've watched talks by and interviews with Seidel, and this book further demonstrates his deep knowledge of the subject.
I understand that he added an epilogue after the Jan 6th 2021 insurrection, which would be a welcome addition as a pdf download for those who bought the earlier version.
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- Michael Patterson
- 09-10-21
Thorough, rational and persuasive
This is what a good legal mind can do - a lesson on the origin of the US constitution and what it is about and a forensic analysis of Biblical beliefs. I am not American and neither am I wholly antithetical toward Christianity. I found the book deeply rational and engrossing - full of fairly made arguments. There was no hint of irrational atheistic bias - just relentlessly solid reasoning.
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- zena pearce
- 11-20-20
eye opening
A really great book . A must read for everyone world wide. It should be in high schools.
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Is a fight against equality and for privilege a fight for religious supremacy? Andrew L. Seidel, a constitutional attorney and author of the critically acclaimed book The Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism Is Un-American, dives into the debate on religious liberty, the modern attempt to weaponize religious freedom, and the Supreme Court's role in that “crusade.”
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Important information
- By Doug on 09-27-23
By: Andrew L Seidel
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Inventing a Christian America
- The Myth of the Religious Founding
- By: Steven K. Green
- Narrated by: Gregg Rizzo
- Length: 11 hrs and 1 min
- Unabridged
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In Inventing a Christian America, Green, a leading historian of religion and politics, explores the historical record that is purported to support the popular belief in America's religious founding and status as a Christian nation.
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Unintelligible narration
- By Dana Chilton on 10-19-18
By: Steven K. Green
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White Evangelical Racism
- The Politics of Morality in America
- By: Anthea Butler
- Narrated by: Allyson Johnson
- Length: 3 hrs and 44 mins
- Unabridged
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The American political scene today is poisonously divided, and the vast majority of white evangelicals plays a strikingly unified, powerful role in the disunion. These evangelicals raise a starkly consequential question for electoral politics: Why do they claim morality while supporting politicians who act immorally by most Christian measures? In this clear-eyed, hard-hitting chronicle of American religion and politics, Anthea Butler answers that racism is at the core of conservative evangelical activism and power.
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As a White Evangelical ... or Formally So ...
- By Wigwam on 05-09-21
By: Anthea Butler
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American Fascists
- The Christian Right and the War on America
- By: Chris Hedges, Eunice Wong
- Narrated by: Chris Hedges, Eunice Wong
- Length: 8 hrs and 10 mins
- Unabridged
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Twenty-five years ago, when Pat Robertson and other televangelists first spoke of the United States being a Christian nation that would build a global Christian empire, it was hard to take such hyperbolic rhetoric seriously. Today, such language no longer sounds like hyperbole but poses, instead, a very real threat to our freedoms and our way of life.
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Please, read or listen to this book.
- By D on 06-22-07
By: Chris Hedges, and others
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The Power Worshippers
- Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism
- By: Katherine Stewart
- Narrated by: Tosca Hopkins
- Length: 11 hrs and 26 mins
- Unabridged
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For too long the Religious Right has masqueraded as a social movement preoccupied with a number of cultural issues, such as abortion and same-sex marriage. In her deeply reported investigation, Katherine Stewart reveals a disturbing truth: this is a political movement that seeks to gain power and to impose its vision on all of society. America’s religious nationalists aren’t just fighting a culture war, they are waging a political war on the norms and institutions of American democracy.
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The Audible editors were AWOL on this one
- By Frank Hightower on 05-24-20
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Alt-America
- The Rise of the Radical Right in the Age of Trump
- By: David Neiwert
- Narrated by: Matthew Josdal
- Length: 14 hrs and 45 mins
- Unabridged
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Just as Donald Trump's victorious campaign for the US presidency shocked the world, the seemingly sudden national prominence of white supremacists, xenophobes, militia leaders, and mysterious "alt-right" figures mystifies many. But the American extreme right has been growing steadily in number and influence since the 1990s with the rise of patriot militias. Following 9/11, conspiracy theorists found fresh life; and in virulent reaction to the first black US president, militant racists have come out of the woodwork.
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amazing. I want to recommend it to everyone.
- By Charlie Dubou on 05-13-18
By: David Neiwert
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American Crusade
- By: Andrew L Seidel
- Narrated by: Andrew L Seidel, Lee Osario
- Length: 11 hrs and 23 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall
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Performance
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Story
Is a fight against equality and for privilege a fight for religious supremacy? Andrew L. Seidel, a constitutional attorney and author of the critically acclaimed book The Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism Is Un-American, dives into the debate on religious liberty, the modern attempt to weaponize religious freedom, and the Supreme Court's role in that “crusade.”
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-
Important information
- By Doug on 09-27-23
By: Andrew L Seidel
-
Inventing a Christian America
- The Myth of the Religious Founding
- By: Steven K. Green
- Narrated by: Gregg Rizzo
- Length: 11 hrs and 1 min
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
In Inventing a Christian America, Green, a leading historian of religion and politics, explores the historical record that is purported to support the popular belief in America's religious founding and status as a Christian nation.
-
-
Unintelligible narration
- By Dana Chilton on 10-19-18
By: Steven K. Green
-
White Evangelical Racism
- The Politics of Morality in America
- By: Anthea Butler
- Narrated by: Allyson Johnson
- Length: 3 hrs and 44 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
The American political scene today is poisonously divided, and the vast majority of white evangelicals plays a strikingly unified, powerful role in the disunion. These evangelicals raise a starkly consequential question for electoral politics: Why do they claim morality while supporting politicians who act immorally by most Christian measures? In this clear-eyed, hard-hitting chronicle of American religion and politics, Anthea Butler answers that racism is at the core of conservative evangelical activism and power.
-
-
As a White Evangelical ... or Formally So ...
- By Wigwam on 05-09-21
By: Anthea Butler
-
American Fascists
- The Christian Right and the War on America
- By: Chris Hedges, Eunice Wong
- Narrated by: Chris Hedges, Eunice Wong
- Length: 8 hrs and 10 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall
-
Performance
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Story
Twenty-five years ago, when Pat Robertson and other televangelists first spoke of the United States being a Christian nation that would build a global Christian empire, it was hard to take such hyperbolic rhetoric seriously. Today, such language no longer sounds like hyperbole but poses, instead, a very real threat to our freedoms and our way of life.
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Please, read or listen to this book.
- By D on 06-22-07
By: Chris Hedges, and others
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The Power Worshippers