"No surgery is better than a bad surgery"

-Dr. Teresa Hilgers

Looking for a surgeon for PCOS, pelvic pain/endometriosis, and/or infertility and don't know where to start? Understand that not all surgeons have the same training and expertise? Do you need a repeat surgery? Unsure of questions to ask when interviewing surgeons? Have you heard of plastic surgery for the pelvis?!

This episode is for you. Mary interviewed one of her best friends, Lisa, who is an experienced nurse and Certified Creighton Practitioner. They shared their years of experience personally and professionally, following clients before they had surgery with a variety of different surgeons and afterwards to assess outcomes. Lisa shared some fascinating and provocative information she learned recently at the Annual FertilityCare Conference from surgeons and researchers to give you all the information you need to make the best decision for yourself.

Lisa Morvant is a Certified FertilityCare Practitioner in the Creighton Model system and the responsible practitioner for Little Flower FertilityCare. She has been teaching the Creighton Model System for 5.5 years. Lisa holds a Bachelor’s of Science degree in Nursing and has been practicing as a Registered Nurse since 2011. Her nursing settings include adult ER, pediatric and OB/GYN ER, and the recovery room. She has been married to her husband Chris for 12 years. They reside in the Lafayette, LA area. Lisa has a passion for authentic women’s healthcare and helping educate and empower women to advocate for themselves and their health. Contact her at lcmorvant@gmail.com.

Anti-Adhesion Research: Near Adhesion-Free Reconstructive Pelvic Surgery: Three Distinct Phases of Progress Over 23 Years | Journal of Gynecologic Surgery (liebertpub.com)

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Did you know that almost any physical therapist can call themselves a pelvic floor physical therapist, but not all are equally equipped?

In this short bonus episode, Mary interviewed Dr. Jenny Porter, a physical therapist who specializes in pelvic floor, to learn what qualifies physical therapists to treat different pelvic floor issues. How can you know whether or not your PT is equipped to help you? *We apologize for the audio issues during this episode on our end! Dr. Jenny's audio sounds good.

1. Physical Therapy is a doctoral degree that takes 6-7 years to complete. Less than two hours is spent on the pelvic floor during that entire time.

2. Specific continuing ed courses are required to gain expertise in treating the pelvic floor.

3. Herman and Wallace and APTA are companies that offer the best/standard training courses for physical therapists who plan to treat the pelvic floor.

4. Level 2 training is required to treat sexual dysfunction, and postpartum, bowel, and male issues. Level 3 is required for the complicated neurological and congenital issues.

5. Your pelvic floor physical therapist (PFPT) that is equipped to treat you for sexual dysfunction is not necessarily qualified to treat you during pregnancy/postpartum, and visa versa.

6. Almost any physical therapist can claim that they are a pelvic floor physical therapist. There is no regulating body for PFPT yet - only physical therapy.

Listen to the episode to hear the questions Dr. Jenny Porter asks other pelvic floor PT offices to figure out if they are qualified to treat specific issues and for Jenny's tips on how to find help if you don't have the right kind of PT near you.

You can find Dr. Jenny Porter at Pivotal PT & Wellness in Mandeville, Louisiana.

Previous podcast episode interviews with pelvic floor physical therapists:

Co-host of the Hormone Genius Podcast, founder of the Fiat Institute, and Creighton Practitioner, Jamie Rathjen, M.A., FCP joined Emily and Mary to explore her new (and pretty amazing) hormone coaching program, which fills the gap between your fertility awareness instructor and your physician. There are lifestyle factors and nutritional insights that these pros just don't have the time, or knowledge in many cases, to address. This is where your hormone coach comes in! So far, Jamie has trained about 30 incredible women (a mix of Creighton & FEMM instructors, PAs, DOs) to serve you in this space! Jamie also explained how stats on birth control influenced her work.

Find Jamie: www.hormonegenius.com, www.fiatinstitute.com, www.guidingstarproject.com

Instagram: @fiat_institute, @hormonegenius

To become a hormone coach: Fiatinstitute.com

To receive hormone coaching: email contact@fiatinstitue.com or visit Fiatinstitute.com/directory