‍It was March 2016—only 10 short years ago—when Jennifer Grossman reported for her first day on the job as CEO of The Atlas Society.

Usually the one asking questions on Objectively Speaking, Grossman will swap seats with longtime friend of The Atlas Society, Naomi Brockwell, President and Founder of the Ludlow Institute, a nonprofit dedicated to protecting privacy in the digital age. Naomi will chat with JAG about her chief accomplishments, challenges, and impact over the first 10 years of growing the organization, and share her vision for the decade to come.

Join Atlas Society CEO Jennifer Grossman for the 291st episode of Objectively Speaking as she sits down with Uyghur rights advocate and political leader Salih Hudayar, Foreign Minister of the East Turkistan Government in Exile, to discuss China’s persecution of the Uyghur people, the fight for East Turkistan’s independence, and efforts in the international community to confront authoritarian repression and defend human rights.

Born in a Uyghur village under Chinese rule, Hudayar was forced to flee with his family at just seven years old to escape persecution. Now serving as Foreign Minister of the East Turkistan Government in Exile, Hudayar has been at the forefront of international efforts to expose and oppose the Chinese Communist Party’s campaign of repression, mass detention, and cultural eradication against the Uyghur people.

All political labels are abused—some more than others. When should a label be abandoned, and when not? In contemporary American political journalism, liberal is one such contested word.

In the 290th episode of Objectively Speaking, Stephen Hicks will discuss its value and prospects.