This is a breaking news episode summarising today’s UFO press event at the National Press Club in Washington DC, focused on the 1996 Varginha UFO case in Brazil.

Andy provides a factual, chronological recap of the event, including sworn witness testimony, recorded statements from Brazilian witnesses who were denied US visas, and commentary from congressional and medical figures.

The episode also covers the lack of mainstream media presence, the role of whistleblower protections, and listener reaction following the event.

Witness video statements discussed in this episode are available on YouTube and X.

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In Part 2, Matt Ford explains why he takes a confrontational stance online, calling out professional debunkers, media narratives, and institutional behaviour around UAPs.

We discuss accountability, skepticism versus narrative management, and where the UFO conversation may be heading next.

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In Part 1, journalist and The Good Trouble Show host Matt Ford discusses his background, early interest in UFOs, personal experiences, and why stigma continues to shape the conversation.

We explore how experiencers are affected by ridicule, why many stay silent for decades, and the human cost of dismissing the phenomenon outright.

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