On this episode of That UFO Podcast, I’m joined by Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman to discuss the launch of their new podcast, Sound, Light, Frequency.

Bryce returns to the show, while Brent makes his first appearance, and together we get into a wide-ranging conversation on Dark Skies, Hollywood, disclosure, insider influence, and how entertainment may have shaped public perception of the UFO topic for decades.

We discuss Brent’s remarkable early experience being briefed by a figure connected to the Reagan administration, the mysterious approaches made to them around Dark Skies, whether those kinds of quiet conversations are still happening today, and what they now believe about the subject after years of working around it.

We also talk about the new podcast, why now felt like the right time to launch it, what they hope to do with it, and how they see the current state of UFO disclosure in 2026.

This is a fascinating discussion on storytelling, secrecy, media, and the ever-blurring line between fiction and reality.

You can find Sound, Light, Frequency wherever you get your podcasts.

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Mark Christopher Lee joins me to discuss the controversy surrounding his claims that President Trump was set to deliver a UFO disclosure speech on July 8.

We discuss the two sources Mark says gave him the information, why he trusted them, what happened with the alleged May 1 Washington press conference, and why he now feels he may have been misled.

We also talk about Mark’s background in the UFO subject, the paranormal side of the phenomenon, and the wider issue of accountability when big claims are made in this topic.

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In this news update, Andy breaks down one of the most interesting recent public conversations on UFOs, as Eric Davis and Eric Weinstein go back and forth on interdimensional language, David Grusch, physics, secrecy and why alleged crash-retrieval programs still seem so difficult to understand.

Also in this episode: Weinstein’s appearance on Piers Morgan, the renewed attention on Havana Syndrome after 60 Minutes, Eric Burlison’s first site visit and why Pax River remains a facility of interest, Tim Burchett pressing President Trump on disclosure, Ross Coulthart’s latest claims about withheld UAP videos, portal allegations, and the disappearance of General Neil McCasland.

Topics include:

Eric Davis and Eric Weinstein on American Alchemy

Grusch, “interdimensional beings” and the language problem

Why alleged crash programs may not involve top physicists

Piers Morgan, Epstein, conspiracy language and UFO secrecy

Havana Syndrome and why it matters to the wider conversation

Burlison’s site visit, Pax River and requests for specific UFO files

Tim Burchett’s latest comments on Trump and disclosure

Ross Coulthart on withheld videos, portals and McCasland

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