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The podcast where we scale up on knowledge so we don't scale up our systems. Find out why working in Industrial Water Treatment is the best job in the world. Hear industry experts share their knowledge and stories. Learn about technologies, methods, and career journeys. Join podcast host Trace Blackmore, former AWT President, LEED, and CWT every Friday for a new episode.© 2018 All Rights Reserved, Blackmore Enterprises, Inc. Economía
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  • 438 Innovative Water Treatment Chemistry with Matheus Paschoalino

    438 Innovative Water Treatment Chemistry with Matheus Paschoalino
    Sep 19 2025
    Can a carbon-negative, bio-based molecule replace legacy phosphonates and help you use less azole—without sacrificing corrosion performance? In this episode, host Trace Blackmore, CWT, welcomes Matheus Paschoalino, PhD Senior Business Development Manager and Microbial Control SME of Solugen, to unpack polyhydroxycarboxylic acids (PHCs) and how they’re changing cooling-water programs from the field up. We cover HEDP replacement in light-duty systems, azole enhancement in copper-challenged waters, a second-generation cut for heavy-duty heat flux, and PHC behavior with oxidizers and non-oxidizer biocides. From Bioforge to Basin: How PHCs Are Made and Why It Matters Paschoalino explains Solugen’s chemo-enzymatic “Bioforge” approach that oxidizes sugars (corn-syrup feedstock) into PHCs with very high yield and no practical byproducts—a pathway validated as carbon-negative. He outlines how different “cuts” (monoacid-rich vs. diacid-rich) map to different use cases, and notes current manufacturing capacity and adoption across hundreds of towers. Replacing HEDP in Light-Duty Programs For hospitals, HVAC, and other light-duty systems, PHCs have fully replaced HEDP as the anodic corrosion inhibitor while keeping PBTC for scale, enabling lower total phosphorus formulations with equal or better performance compared to status-quo organics. Azole Enhancement, Free Copper, and Real-World Cost Field work showed PHCs chelate metals quickly, protecting azole demand when free copper is present (e.g., after oxidizer flushing) and reducing expensive azole overdosing. One university case dropped an adjunct 8-ppm azole feed by pairing the base 3–4 ppm azole with PHC, yielding both corrosion control and lower discharge costs. Second-Generation PHCs for Heavy-Duty Heat Flux (Toward “Neutral Phosphorus”) At higher heat flux and stabilized-phosphate conditions, a diacid-rich second-generation PHC proved more stable, enabling orthophosphate reduction and opening a path toward “neutral phosphorus” programs that leverage background phosphate in municipal make-up. Bench data also show synergy with trace metals (e.g., zinc). Biocide Potentiation and Where It Works Best PHCs remain stable with oxidizers like chlorine dioxide and bleach. Their most compelling synergy shows up with non-oxidizers and peracetic acid (PAA): as a biocide potentiator, PHCs can reduce the need to overdose actives such as THPS, glutaraldehyde, quats, and DBNPA by first complexing interfering metals (e.g., Fe/FeS), letting the biocide perform as intended. Not “Bug Food”: Pilot Cooling Towers and Oxidizer Demand To address the industry’s biggest concern with bio-based chemistries, Solugen ran side-by-side outdoor pilot cooling towers under identical bleach control. Result: comparable oxidizer usage and consistently low counts versus HEDP—evidence that PHCs don’t fuel biofilm. Chelation Mechanics, Polymer Savings, and White Rust PHCs chelate beyond acid-group stoichiometry thanks to multiple hydroxyls and conformational effects—critical for controlling dissolved metals and protecting films. In stressed heat-flux/chlorine conditions, PHCs reduced calcium-phosphate fouling versus HEDP, often allowing polymer dosage cuts. Early data also show promise for white-rust mitigation on galvanized systems, with the diacid-rich cut delivering the strongest reductions. For practitioners, the message is pragmatic: PHCs aren’t “lab curiosities.” They’re fielded at scale, enabling lower-phosphorus programs, protecting costly azole inventories, widening the operational window under oxidizer stress, and potentiating select biocides—while staying compatible with common metals. If you manage cooling assets under cost, compliance, and performance pressure, this episode gives you a clear technical playbook to evaluate. Listen now, review the papers in the show notes, and test a pilot where it counts—on your heat exchangers. Stay engaged, keep learning, and continue scaling up your knowledge! Timestamps 02:15 - Trace Blackmore shares a quick personal open: spotting the Goodyear Blimp (100th anniversary), using memories as fuel rather than limits, and a mindset reset around the word “can’t.” 06:42 - Upcoming Events for Water Treatment Professionals 09:23 - Water You Know with James McDonald 11:41 - Interview with Matheus Paschoalino, Senior Business Development Manager and Microbial Control SME of Solugen 12:02 - HEDP replacement in light-duty programs; lower total phosphorus without losing performance 19:13 - Heavy-duty heat flux: second-generation (diacid-rich) PHCs and reducing orthophosphate 20:39 - “Neutral phosphorus” approach 27:42 - Biocide potentiation: synergy with PAA; strongest effects with non-oxidizers (e.g., THPS) 33:03 - “Bug food?” Pilot side-by-side cooling towers (Houston) 37:39 - HEDP systems fouled with calcium phosphate while PHC system...
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  • 437 Redefining HR: The Key to Talent & Culture in Water Treatment

    437 Redefining HR: The Key to Talent & Culture in Water Treatment
    Sep 12 2025
    What if HR wasn’t the department you dreaded — but the partner that helped your team thrive? In this episode of Scaling UP! H2O, host Trace Blackmore welcomes Tia Amundson, HR Director at HOH Water Technology, to explore how human resources can be a strategic driver of talent, culture, and profitability in the water treatment industry. Redefining HR’s Role Tia shares her journey into water treatment and how she built HOH’s HR department from the ground up. Instead of treating HR as a compliance function, she reframed it as a leadership partner—focused on employee connections, transparent communication, and culture building. From structured check-ins at 30, 60, and 90 days to coaching managers and bridging communication gaps, her approach ensures employees feel supported, heard, and connected. Culture as Competitive Advantage HOH’s success story demonstrates how culture directly shapes business outcomes. Tia explains how open-book management, employee engagement surveys, and intentional recognition programs have increased retention, profitability, and trust across the organization. By aligning HR strategies with EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System), HOH has cultivated an environment where employees thrive and deliver exceptional service. Talent, Retention, and the Future of HR Finding and retaining the right people remains one of the industry’s biggest challenges. Tia outlines the importance of a clear employee value proposition, authentic recruiting practices, and a commitment to work-life balance. She also discusses how HR will evolve over the next decade, balancing automation with the irreplaceable human element of caring for people. Dream Management and Employee Growth As a Certified Dream Manager, Tia integrates personal growth with professional development. By helping employees pursue their own dreams, HOH has fostered deeper engagement, loyalty, and breakthroughs that extend far beyond the workplace. Conclusion For leaders in the water treatment industry, this episode challenges you to view HR not as a cost center, but as a powerful lever for long-term success. Strategic HR practices can reduce turnover, build culture, and give your organization a competitive edge. Stay engaged, keep learning, and continue scaling up your knowledge! Timestamps 02:28 - Trace Blackmore welcomes listeners, shares personal “sharpen the saw” growth theme 04:53 - Sharpen-the-saw story 08:10 - Water You Know with James McDonald 10:05 - Upcoming Events for Water Treatment Professionals 13:15 - Interview with a friend and Rising Tide Mastermind member Tia Amundson, HR Director, HOH Water Technology 13:30 - HR as employee connection + leadership alignment, not a “principal’s office” 16:32 - From hiring to long-term care 19:14 - Coaching managers 23:49 - Turnover → P&L 33:12 – Recruitment Realities 44:03 – Dream Manager Program 48:11 – Overcoming Skepticism 50:02 – The Future of HR 51:13 – Start/Stop for HR 52:50 – Foundational operating system (EOS) first Quotes “HR isn’t about punishment—it’s about building trust, culture, and strategic advantage.” “Pour into your employees, and they will pour into their work. That discretionary effort is what differentiates great companies.” “Open communication and transparency aren’t soft skills—they’re the foundation of an intentional culture.” “We started this interview saying we’d shatter how people think about HR—and I think we’ve shattered about a dozen things already.” “When you engage employees in their personal dreams, you directly impact workplace engagement.” Connect with Tia Amundson Phone: +12247721377 Email: tamundson@hohwatertechnology.com Website: www.hohwatertechnology.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tia-amundson-shrm-cp/ Guest Resources Mentioned HOH Water Technology EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System) Gallup Q12 Engagement Survey The Dream Manager by Matthew Kelly How to Be a Great Boss: Gino Wickman, René Boer Traction by Gino Wickman Three Signs of a Miserable Job by Patrick Lencioni Wellbeing at Work: How to Build Resilient and Thriving Teams by Jim Clifton (Author) & Jim Harter People: Dare to Build an Intentional Culture (The EOS Mastery Series) by Mark O'Donnell (Author), Kelly Knight (Author), CJ DuBe' (Author) Beyond High Performance by Jason Jaggard Scaling UP! H2O Resources Mentioned AWT (Association of Water Technologies) Industrial Water Week Scaling UP! H2O's Industrial Water Week Resources Scaling UP! H2O Academy video courses Submit a Show Idea The Rising Tide Mastermind Water You Know with James McDonald Question: What are some reasons for softener resin beads to crack? 2025 Events for Water Professionals Check out our Scaling UP! H2O Events Calendar where we’ve listed every event Water Treaters should be...
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  • 436 Raising the Bar: Legionella Management & Industry Standards

    436 Raising the Bar: Legionella Management & Industry Standards
    Sep 5 2025
    With those words, Jemma Tennant highlights one of the most profound differences between Legionella management in Europe and the United States. In this episode of Scaling UP! H2O, host Trace Blackmore welcomes Jemma Tennant, Chair of the Water Management Society (WMSoc), to explore how legislation, enforcement, and professional training shape the fight against Legionella. Proactive Regulation and Duty of Care The UK treats Legionella as a foreseeable and preventable risk. Jemma explains how laws like the Health and Safety at Work Act and COSHH Regulations require mandatory Legionella risk assessments, temperature monitoring, and written control schemes—even when no cases have occurred. This contrasts with the U.S., where ASHRAE 188 serves as guidance rather than enforceable law, often triggering enforcement only after outbreaks. Jemma shares a case study where a housing association was fined £1.2 million despite no recorded illness, underscoring the UK’s proactive stance on protecting public health. Hospitals, Design, and Emerging Challenges From hospital plumbing layouts to new “waterless” intensive care units, Jemma details how design choices can either mitigate or magnify waterborne risk. Scotland’s model of involving water safety groups at the design stage provides a proactive example for healthcare worldwide. She also outlines how climate change, net-zero initiatives, and rising ambient temperatures are complicating control strategies across Europe. Raising Standards Through Collaboration As Chair of WMSoc, Jemma is leading efforts to raise industry standards and reverse what she calls a “race to the bottom.” She describes partnerships with AWT in the U.S. and LMAG in Australia to share expertise across borders. The episode also explores her pursuit of the Certified Water Technologist (CWT) credential and her vision for adapting the certification for UK professionals. Conclusion This conversation is a call to action for water treatment professionals everywhere: regulations, standards, and collaboration matter. Whether in cooling towers, hospitals, or housing estates, Legionella management requires vigilance, shared knowledge, and a commitment to raising the bar. Listen to the full episode and discover how global collaboration can shape safer water management practices. Stay engaged, keep learning, and continue scaling up your knowledge! Timestamps 01:55 - Trace Blackmore introduces the final installment of Legionella Awareness Month 2025 05:30 - Water You Know with James McDonald 07:30 - Upcoming Events for Water Treatment Professionals 14:50 - Interview with Jemma Tennant, SMS Environmental, Chair of the Water Management Society (WMSoc) 15:24 - Jemma’s background: growing up in the U.S. and UK, science upbringing, rotifers, and wastewater treatment career. 32:25 - The Water Management Society: structure, training, collaboration with AWT and LMAG 43:00 - Raising industry standards: combating the “race to the bottom” in UK water treatment. Quotes “In the UK, we’re prosecuted for the potential for harm, not just actual harm. Legionella is treated as a foreseeable and preventable risk.” “It’s the transition between just doing the task to understanding the why behind the task.” “We’re seeing a serious drop in industry standards—a race to the bottom—and that’s why raising the bar is so important.” “At the end of it, the CWT covers everything. You end up being a complete water treater.” “Always be honest when you don’t know the answer, then go and learn. That’s how you grow.” Connect with Jemma Tennant Phone: 447828315336 Email: j.tennant@sms-environmental.co.uk LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jemma-tennant-mwmsoc-2636985b/ Guest Resources Mentioned Water Management Society (WMSoc) LMAG - Legionella Management Advisory Group - LMAG The Women by Kristin Hannah (Author) HTM 04-01 – UK healthcare water safety standards The Control of Substances Hazardous to Health Regulations 2002 (COSHH Regulations 2002) Health and Safety at Work etc Act 1974 UKAS Accreditation ANAB (US Laboratory Accreditation) Scaling UP! H2O Resources Mentioned AWT (Association of Water Technologies) ANSI/ASHRAE Standard 188-2021 for Legionnaires’ Disease Risk Management ASHRAE Standard-188-2021, Building Water Management Plans – Summary Scaling UP! H2O Academy video courses Submit a Show Idea The Rising Tide Mastermind Ep 101 The One with Colin Frayne, CWT Ep 203 The One With Our Across The Pond Legionella Expert, John Sandford Ep 370 Unlocking Legionella Solutions: Perspectives on Regulations and Best Practices Water You Know with James McDonald Question: Does Hydroxide Alkalinity in a steam boiler water ALWAYS equal 2P-M? 2025 Events for Water Professionals Check out our Scaling UP! H2O Events Calendar where we’ve listed every event Water ...
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