It was a great pleasure having Kevin Doyle and Benjamin Caldwell on my show as special guests.

Benjamin starts the episode by expressing what his main motivations were for writing his book “Saving Psychotherapy”.

Then both Benjamin and Kevin give their professional insight into the mental health and addiction crisis as it comes to the professionals working in the behavioral health field. This entailed discussions on the current behavioral health field workforce issues from low staff, low pay, and the many behavioral health professionals leaving the field.

This also led the conversation to what we as a behavioral health professionals can do to improve these issues so the future generation of mental health and addiction professionals don't have to go through it.

We also asked the difficult questions on counselor supervision and the reasoning behind the number of required hours for licensure. The tough question being why is it at a certain number of hours? Do these hours represent higher adequate skills or professionalism? Is there research out there that supports the benefits of 3000 to 4000 post graduate supervision hours?

Why does it seem that every year it becomes more difficult to be a professional in the behavioral health field not only for the post graduate individuals but for the individual’s still in graduate school?

Benjamin and Kevin also get into information on policy’s and the state legislature so we as a profession can know what to do to ban together to improve these issues we are having in the behavioral health field to further avoid issues like reimbursement rates being reduced and substance use treatment centers from being shut down.

Benjamins Book

“Saving Psychotherapy” Saving Psychotherapy: How Therapists Can Bring the Talking Cure Back from the Brink

https://a.co/d/9VKQIFQ

Benjamins contact Information

linkedin.com/in/benjamincaldwell

bencaldwell.com (Personal)

ben@bencaldwell.com

Kevin’s contact Information

linkedin.com/in/kevin-doyle-91646515

kevin@drkevindoyle.com

hazeldenbettyford.org/education/graduate-school-addiction-studies

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