In this special episode I had the distinct pleasure of having a Professor of Law at Mitchel Hamline school of law Natalie Netzel.

In this episode we get into many excellent topics and wonderful discussions on Natalies educational journey from the reasons why she pursued a counseling career then eventually transitioning to law school then eventually becoming a licensed attorney.

I also asked Natalie some of her greatest joys being a school counselor as well as being an attorney.

We also get into discussions on how being a counselor can be a significant benefit in going through law school as well as being a great attorney.

Natalie's contact information

nnetzel@gmail.com

linkedin.com/in/natalie-netzel-02389156

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I am super excited to be hosting this Behavioral Health Integration live event!

I am equally excited to learn and get to know my special guest Jeremiah Gardner as well as his special work in the recovery field. I am also honored to help promote and learn more about a very special event coming soon called the UPLIFT & UPHOLD: Mental Health, Addiction Recovery, and the Law.

This one-of-a-kind multidisciplinary gathering—the only “Mobilize Recovery Campus Surge 2025” event to be held on a law school campus—is inspired by a simple concept: that to advance justice, empower recovery, confront stigma, reform systems and stay healthy ourselves, we are stronger together.

More information on the event

This even will be taking place on October Saturday, October 11, 2025 from 1:00 PM to 4:30 PM (Central Time)

Location: Mitchell Hamline School of Law Auditorium · 875 Summit Ave, Saint Paul, MN

Mobilize Recovery email: info@mobilizerecovery.org

Jeremiah's contact information

linkedin.com/in/jeremiah-gardner-recovery

hazeldenbettyford.org

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As a professional licensed therapist, I will be giving my personal and professional insight and humanistic reaction to this video.

This video/podcast touches on the subjects of our country's mental health system, the diagnosis and psychiatric medications, the stress of working with traumatized clients, vicarious trauma in the therapist, payments and the negative side of working with insurance companies, the exhausting nature of the work we do to help clients reach there therapeutic goals.

Please leave comments on the video would love to hear other peoples input.

Whatever is said or expressed in my videos/podcast is not meant to be taken as therapeutic advice. If you do find yourself struggling with any kind of mental health or addiction issue, please seek the care of a licensed mental health professional or a medical doctor.

References to video

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