Dr Gareth Farmer (University of Bedfordshire) joins me to discuss Veronica Forrest-Thomson's theory of poetry, and particularly her book, Poetic Artifice.

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terms and references:

(1) Veronica Forrest-Thomson, Poetic Artifice • difficulty • Drew Milne • J. H. Prynne (2) Gareth Farmer, Veronica Forrest-Thomson: Poet on the Periphery • Jonathan Culler (4) Roman Jakobson, poetic function (5) artifice (6) meaning • external world • mimesis (7) naturalisation (9) artifice • New Criticism • Well Wrought Urn (10) platonic form • formal features (11) Jakobson • Ferdinand de Saussure • structuralism (12) image-complex • disconnected image-complex • Forrest-Thomson, 'The Separate Planet' • William Empson (13) dominant of the poem • metaphysical conceit (14) disconnected image-complex (15) Deleuze & Guattari, the rhizome (16) John Ashbery (17) discursive imagery • empirical imagery • Brian McHale (18) intertextuality • reference • schematisation (19) elegant failure (20) Practical Criticism • internal/external expansion and limitation (21) treeness (22) Jakobson • Empson (23) I. A. Richards • structuralism • post-structuralism • Roland Barthes • Julia Kristeva • Marcelin Pleynet • Michel Couturier (24) Tel Quel • Culler, Structuralist Poetics (25) Dada • Tristran Tzara (25) Marjorie Perloff (26) Wittgenstein • ordinary language philosophy (27) Barthes • Wittgenstein, language-game • poetic function • Russian Formalism • Velimir Khlebnikov • Vladimir Mayakovsky (28) Viktor Shklovsky • Zaum poetry • strangeness (29) poetic practice • Ted Hughes • Philip Larkin • experimental poetics • The Movement (30) Ashbery (32) Empson • subjective but who cares? • women at Cambridge in the 1970s • Wendy Mulford • Denise Riley (33) Forrest-Thomson, Cordelia, or 'A Poem Should Not Mean, But Be' (34) Archibald MacLeish, 'Ars Poetica' (36) hermeneutics (39) heroic failures (41) politics • identity politics • feminism (42) Riley

This episode's poem can be read in Venus as a Bear (Carcanet, 2018) or online here:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2018/may/21/poem-of-the-week-they-may-forget-their-names-if-let-out-by-vahni-capildeo

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terms and references:

(1) Gladstone's Library (2) cuteness (3) anthropomorphism (4) Francis Ponge, the domestic, oysters, soap | metaphor (5) Jorie Graham (6) Vahni Capildeo, Venus as a Bear | Birmingham University | Forward Prize | excitement (9) Vahni Capildeo, 'They (may forget (their names (if let out)))' | learning by heart (10) pace (12) sonnet, Shakespeare, Petrarch (13) volta | Maisie interruption (15) rhyme scheme, identical rhyme | assonance (16) content (17) cats vs dogs | domestication (18) subjectivities (19) imagining being a pet | petty phenomena (20) anthropomorphism (22) Ludwig Wittgenstein, Philosophical Investigations, 'Wenn ein Löwe sprechen könnte, wir könnten ihn nicht verstehen' (23) Les Murray, Translations from the Natural World (25) Minnie Mouse (26) polkadots and my wardrobe | gender (27) Yayoi Kusama, infinity nets (29) infinity net explainer (30) Vahni Capildeo, 'They (may forget (their names (if let out)))' | brackets, confinement (31) Charles Olson | punctuation | zombies (34) names (36) in and out, in and ex | interior language (36) Ron Silliman, 'The New Sentence', torquing (38) Isabel Galleymore, Significant Other, 'Rainforest Spelled Backwards Is Lustful', 'Spirit Human' | Matthea Harvey, Pity the Bathtub Its Forced Embrace of the Human Form (39) Language Poetry | bounce (40) optician's exam (42) visual patterning | collocation (43) monosyllables (44) carpet | sound (48) vomit (49) the body (50) parts of speech (51) Wittgenstein, pictures of reality (53) ownership, domestication (54) Friedrich Nietzsche, grammar | verbal diarrhoea (55) patting, pattes (57) turds and turding (1'01) dogs sniffing dogs bottoms (1'02) predators (1'05) tagging along (1'06) being mean and meaning beings (1'07) canis, dog (1'08) polling (1'10) translated polkadot blanket (1'12) bowwow (1'13) Genesis ( 1'14) Latin (1'15) Trinitarian formula (1'18) reset to factory settings (1'19) setting

The post-hoc inserted explainer music is 'Local Forecast - Elevator' by Kevin MacLeod, (Creative Commons —  https://goo.gl/Yibru5)

Read the poem here: http://whilethereisstilltime.blogspot.com/2013/01/new-year-dusk.html

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subjects and references:

(1) Perverse magazine (2) convention (3) Bloodaxe | New Yorker cartoon (4) Chrissy Williams, Low | W. H. Auden, apprenticeship | Sylvia Plath, biography (5) modernism, Ezra Pound, The Cantos (6) music and poetry | Swansea University, Wynn Thomas, American poetry, eyebrows (7) form | Walt Whitman, self-promotion (8) arguments in pubs (9) Walt Whitman, 'When I Heard the Learn'd Astronomer', post-truth (10) Poetry Parnassus, Anna Selby, Southbank Centre (11) Aldeburgh Poetry Festival | yapping about poetry (12) Sonam Chhoki | Japanese poetry forms (13) Sonam Chhoki, 'New Year Dusk' (14) simple observation (15) the passage of time, taking stock (16) capitalisation | collocation (18) consistency editorial brain (19) parts of speech | Pound, 'In a Station of the Metro' | imagism, metaphor (20) Arthur interruption (21) figures, graphemes, figuration (22) mimesis (23) the 'hyperpoety' | installation poetry (25) mistaking (26) imagism, metaphor, the renunciation of metaphor (27) literal and metaphorical | persona, copula (28) ambiguity | brevity (29) editing | The Poetry Library | economy, short poems (30) waffle | Chrissy Williams, Bear | epigraphs (31) poetry as juxtaposition | instapoetry (32) spoken word vs 'book' poets (33) space, legibility (34) motivational quotes, originality, substance (35) concrete poetry | snobbery | Poems on the Underground (36) implied speaking voice | Ian Hamilton Finlay, Little Sparta (37) advertising, words in the urban space | snobbery vs the right to critique, discrimination (38) space, layout (39) visual aspects invisible to reading (e.g. page-breaks) (40) Simon Armitage (41) format (42) fold-out pages | Toby Martinez de las Rivas, Terror | syllabics (43) haiku, tanka (44) half-rhyme, assonance | quatrain (46) generating disruption | stress (47) coupling & company | the minimum of companionship (48) punctuation (49) line-breaks (50) consistency | magic eye (51) torque (52) Rainer Maria Rilke, 'Archaic Torso of Apollo' (53) dusk (54) mistaking as an opportunity for learning (55) shining bloody men (56) monosyllables (57) ambiguity (58) collocation (59) close-ness