In this episode Toby sits down with the legend Brett Gurewitz for a part 2! He talks about their first European tour, Epitaph 2025, the sound of punk being more diverse, Drain, the year punk broke, the importance of the Punk O Rama compilations,selling out ,still pressing vinyl, streaming services and artist revenue, Ramones being his gateway to punk, how the band started, being a wild kid, partying hard and not doing well in school, putting out records while still in high school living at home, long boarding, Bad Religion, transcendental meditation at 14, hobbies, curating his social media, what punk means to him and more!

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In this episode Toby sits down with Drain vocalist Sammy Ciaramitaro for a part 3! He chats about getting married and his wife, Living Proof, Tim's cancer and him recovering, graduating college, new album with a producer, straight edge, surfing, jiu-jitsu, social media, cinema, the fans being number one, playing all different kinds of fests, the music business, gate keeping, their new album ...IS YOUR FRIEND and more!

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In this episode Toby sits down with Mindforce vocalist Jay Petagine! He talks about upstate NY, traveling to the city, hardcore in the 90's, soccer, sports and life lessons, hardcore ruining sports for him, music for broken people, graffiti, being a teacher, Leeway, underground hip hop, his parents, his influences and inspirations, gate keeping, other projects and more!

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