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Mike and Doug drop in after a bit of a break to catch up on life, psychedelics, healing, and everything in between.

Doug shares what came through during the solstice while recovering from surgery—some sun, some stillness, and a feeling that didn’t quite have a name. Mike talks about spending a Saturday alone, taking acid, deep-cleaning the house, and somehow stumbling into one of the best days he’s had in a long time.

They talk about:

• The mix of emotions that don’t fit into words
• Solo rituals, breathwork, and weirdly meaningful chores
• Values they’re trying to actually live by
• The tension between letting go and showing up
• He-Man, theology, and friendship power rankings

It finally happened. After five years of teasing it, Doug’s brother Adam joins the podcast—and it's everything we hoped for and more.

We dive deep into childhood hallucinations (or were they?), the mysterious and possibly imaginary Mitch Wrangler, and the shared false memory of eating rocks on the playground. Things get even weirder as we relive our first temple experiences—from sandwich board nudity and oily rubdowns to the surreal moment of receiving our secret new names (RIP Doug → Dan).

And yeah... we’re still trying to figure out what “loud laughter” even means.

Topics Include:

• Temple names and secret oaths
• Sibling memories and shared hallucinations
• The trauma and comedy of the endowment ceremony
• Missions, guilt, and sincerity
• Cold hot dogs + bologna + peanut butter
• Our very own Backstreet Boys moment in Vegas
• The forbidden story of the Testicle Festival
• Forgetting your name at the veil

Mike is joined again by Kelli Christine Case for a deep dive into life after Mormonism, the messiness of self-discovery, and reclaiming pleasure, power, and presence.

They explore:

• The grief and rebirth that comes from leaving Mormonism
• Codependence and control in Mormon structures (and how it shows up post-Mormon)
• Deconstructing dating, polyamory, and monogamy as evolving processes, not fixed identities
• Why emotional honesty is a superpower—and the freedom of saying “I don’t know”
• The importance of self-approval, shadow emotions (anger, disgust, hatred), and radical truth-telling
• The magnetic pull of embodied presence: dancing wild like it’s only you
• How creative expression becomes a path to reclamation

✨ Kelli Christine Case

Visit her website for more details: kellichristinecase.com

Kelli's TikTok: @kellichristinecase

Links:
The Nightingale (YouTube)