Mike and Doug sip eggnog and red wine, trade stories, and play a handful of original Christmas songs—some joyful, some aching, all deeply felt. Along the way they talk Santa, Jesus, solstice, grief, family, belief, and what it means to reclaim Christmas after faith falls apart. Cozy, chaotic, sincere, and full of heart.

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Mike and Doug revisit the Mormon mythos and the Book of Mormon, from headless Shiz gasping for breath to Utah’s mission-call pageantry and the culty performance of modern Mormonism. Doug reads from the book of Ether while Mike keeps interrupting with memories and myth, and somehow it all circles back to Jesus, ayahuasca, and The NeverEnding Story. A mix of laughter, rage, reverence, and the strange beauty of waking up.

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A hilarious, stoned wander through smoke alarms, old drafts, and Mormon boyhood that somehow morphs into Mike and Doug opening up about how music saved their asses. From first songs to personal meltdowns to the magic moments when melodies just “arrive,” this one’s a messy, heartfelt love note to friendship and making art together.

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From hotel revelations to Book of Mormon fan fiction — Mike and Doug catch up after a month apart to talk faith, fantasy, and the messy beauty of the in-between. They wander through Mormon nostalgia, creative purpose, and what it means to enjoy life without an endgame.

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An exploration of art, money, and meaning — from Twain’s hustle to the Beatles’ breakup, Nashville bars to AI-generated songs. Mike and Doug wrestle with the paradox of creating for love versus chasing success, and what it means to keep the soul in the work

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Mike and Doug dive into Mark Twain and Beatles deep cuts, swap stories about their own songwriting, and laugh about Care Bear hats at a Darius Rucker show. The talk drifts into authenticity, slowing down creatively, and Doug’s raw reflections on health, ego, and the fear of being “phony.”

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Mike and Doug catch up after their Idaho trip and reflect on the stories we tell ourselves. Doug shares an experience in his yard where a snake encounter turned suddenly when his dog Ozzy bit it in half. The moment sparked reflection on presence, seriousness, and experiencing life as a waking dream.

They also talk about:

• Valley folk vs. mountain folk, and local identity.
• The confusion between names like Kurt and Kirk.
• How Mormon upbringing emphasized weight and meaning in everything, and how that carries into life after leaving.
• Political divisions, “wokeness,” and the challenge of extending grace across differences.
• Everyday neuroses, from airplane food smells to worries about being judged.
• Music updates, including Austin Nights and Holy Smokes.

Mike reunites with Glenn Ostlund of Infants on Thrones to kick off a new series on the Gene Keys. They dive into Glenn’s new book You’re Not Broken, Just Rewiring, explore Gene Key 51 (Agitation → Initiative → Awakening), and share raw stories of faith, separation, creativity, and transformation.

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