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Grief Out Loud

Grief Out Loud

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Remember the last time you tried to talk about grief and suddenly everyone left the room? Grief Out Loud is opening up this often avoided conversation because grief is hard enough without having to go through it alone. We bring you a mix of personal stories, tips for supporting children, teens, and yourself, and interviews with bereavement professionals. Platitude and cliché-free, we promise! Grief Out Loud is hosted by Jana DeCristofaro and produced by Dougy Center: The National Grief Center Children & Families in Portland, Oregon. www.dougy.org Ciencias Sociales Higiene y Vida Saludable Psicología Psicología y Salud Mental
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  • Tending To The Roots Of Ritual With Joél Simone, The Grave Woman

    Tending To The Roots Of Ritual With Joél Simone, The Grave Woman
    Feb 20 2026
    In this episode of Grief Out Loud, we talk with death & grief care professional, educator, and cultural advocate Joél Simone, also known as The Grave Woman. Joél shares the story behind a childhood drawing that declared her future as "the grave woman," and how that early curiosity about death grew into a lifelong vocation in funeral service, grief education, and cultural competency. Drawing from decades of experience, Joél reflects on the spiritual, cultural, and embodied dimensions of grief, including what she's learned by listening closely to families, children, and traditions that are too often overlooked. Joél also talks about her work as founder of the Multicultural Death & Grief Care Academy, including immersive learning experiences that center history, ritual, land, and lineage. Throughout the conversation, she invites us to rethink what ritual looks like and how tending to culture can provide grounding and support for grief. We discuss: How rituals - inherited and improvised - can be a form of medicine What the funeral industry still needs to understand about serving Black and African American families The importance of cultural humility, proactive learning, and not treating communities as monoliths How children experience death and mourning from their literal, physical perspective and what adults often miss The role of land, ancestry, and cultural preservation in grief, particularly within Gullah Geechee communities Why culture itself can be a powerful container for grief and remembrance Connect with Joél Simone: Website: www.thegravewoman.com The Multicultural Death & Grief Care Academy Workshops & Classes The Death & Grief Talk Podcast IG: https://www.instagram.com/thegravewoman Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thegravewoman/
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    42 m
  • Restrung: Music, Grief, And Fatherhood With Matt Fogelson

    Restrung: Music, Grief, And Fatherhood With Matt Fogelson
    Feb 13 2026

    When Matt Fogelson's father died of lung cancer during his senior year of college, he turned to music to express what words couldn't - rage, self-loathing, and grief so profound he didn't know where to put it.

    In this conversation, Matt - author of the new memoir Restrung - talks about the silence that surrounded his father's terminal illness, the vacuum left by an absent but beloved parent, and how grunge music (especially Soundgarden and Pearl Jam) created space for him to feel what was hard to put into words.

    Matt shares how his Aunt Wendy became his unlikely guide, why he wore his father's suits to work for years trying to feel close to him, and the breakthrough moment when Pearl Jam's "Release" helped him shift his relationship with his father's memory and his grief.

    We also discuss how grief shaped his approach to parenting, why he sang a Grateful Dead song to his son every night for 14 years, and the three songs he wishes he could share with his father now.

    Resources

    • Matt's memoir Restrung (released February 3, 2026)
    • Matt's Substack and music blog (Fine Tuning)
    • More at dougy.org

    Grief Out Loud is a production of Dougy Center, the National Grief Center for Children and Families.

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    44 m
  • When Grief and Trauma Collide – Christina Babich, MA

    When Grief and Trauma Collide – Christina Babich, MA
    Feb 3 2026
    When Christina Babich's partner, Alex, died suddenly from a brain aneurysm while they were visiting his family in Italy, her world shattered in more ways than one. In addition to the grief of losing the person she loved and the future they were building together, Christina was also left to navigate the aftermath of a deeply traumatic event - one that profoundly impacted her nervous system, sense of safety, and identity. In this episode, Christina shares what it was like to grieve a sudden, "out-of-order" death while also navigating the derealization, hypervigilance, and other ways the trauma of his death affected her. She talks about how being a "quasi widow" shaped the care and recognition she received and why platitudes about resilience and post-traumatic growth can sometimes feel alienating rather than supportive. Christina also reflects on how her personal experience shaped her work as a psychologist specializing in grief and trauma, including the role of Cognitive Processing Therapy (CPT), the pressure placed on people who are grieving to "transform" their pain, and the importance of being witnessed by someone who truly understands. We discuss The difference between grief and trauma - and how they often coexistDerealization, PTSD, and nervous system responses after a sudden deathWhat Christina means by "quasi-widow" Why platitudes about strength and growth can feel harmfulHow Cognitive Processing Therapy was helpful for herGrieving lost identities, futures, and imagined lives Finding connection with others who can relate Living day-to-day when the future feels overwhelming Connect with Christina Website: https://www.christinababich.com/ Substack: christinababich.substack.com
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    51 m
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