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Grief Out Loud

Grief Out Loud

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Remember the last time you tried to talk about grief and suddenly everyone left the room? Grief Out Loud is opening up this often avoided conversation because grief is hard enough without having to go through it alone. We bring you a mix of personal stories, tips for supporting children, teens, and yourself, and interviews with bereavement professionals. Platitude and cliché-free, we promise! Grief Out Loud is hosted by Jana DeCristofaro and produced by Dougy Center: The National Grief Center Children & Families in Portland, Oregon. www.dougy.org Ciencias Sociales Higiene y Vida Saludable Psicología Psicología y Salud Mental
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  • Waiting for Dawn: Marisa Renee Lee on Living with Grief, Illness, and Uncertainty

    Waiting for Dawn: Marisa Renee Lee on Living with Grief, Illness, and Uncertainty
    Apr 2 2026

    What does it mean to live with uncertainty - especially when your body, your capacity, and your sense of self are all changing at once?

    In this episode, Jana is joined again by author and advocate Marisa Renee Lee. You may know Marisa from her first book, Grief Is Love, or from her work helping people tell the truth about grief. In this conversation, she returns to share about her new book, Waiting for Dawn, and the realities of living with long COVID - an experience that has reshaped her daily life, her work, and her understanding of grief.

    Marisa reflects on the many losses she's navigated over the years: the death of her mother when she was 25, a pregnancy loss, the recent death of her beloved dog, and the ongoing grief of living with chronic illness. We explore how grief shows up not only after someone dies, but also in the loss of health, identity, and certainty.

    Marisa shares how she's learning to live within that uncertainty, from asking for (and accepting) help, to finding small, sustaining moments of joy, to letting go of who she used to be. The conversation also touches on parenting through grief and illness, including how Marisa talks with her young son about death, and what it's been like to watch him develop his own relationship with grief.

    We discuss:

    • The difference between grieving a person and grieving your own health
    • How long COVID has reshaped Marisa's identity, work, and daily life
    • The loneliness of illness and the challenge of asking for help
    • Parenting through grief and talking with children about death
    • The impact of cumulative loss and how different losses intersect
    • Letting go of who you were before loss or illness
    • Finding "micro joys" and small footholds in hard seasons
    • The role of faith, hope, and rest in navigating uncertainty

    Find Marisa: marisareneelee.com Get the book: Waiting for Dawn — available April 7, 2026

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    Want to learn more about supporting children and teens who are grieving? Sign up for our online courses here: https://classes.dougy.org/
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  • Words Matter: What To Say When Someone Is Grieving - Shelby Forsythia

    Words Matter: What To Say When Someone Is Grieving - Shelby Forsythia
    Mar 13 2026

    Shelby Forsythia is well acquainted with grief. After a series of losses that started in her late teens and culminated in the death of her mother from cancer, Shelby became an expert in avoiding and outrunning her grief. Then, an incident with a stolen wallet broke through that avoidance; in the aftermath of letting those feelings out, she realized she needed to give herself permission to grieve. Since then, Shelby's done so much in the realm of grief support—as a coach, author, and host of the Grief Grower podcast. Shelby's newest book, Of Course, I'm Here, Right Now, written for friends, family, and community members, provides answers to the ubiquitous question: "What do I say to someone who is grieving?"

    We discuss:

    • The "four years of hell" when Shelby experienced multiple losses.
    • The stolen wallet incident and the loud, messy grief eruption that followed.
    • Why people fear falling into the abyss of grief if they start crying.
    • Three stories people who are grieving tell themselves.
    • The three phrases that help dismantle those unhelpful stories.
    • What people said after Shelby's mom died vs. what they said after her best friend Tami died.
    • How to start the conversation with someone who is grieving.

    Connect with Shelby Forsythia: https://www.shelbyforsythia.com/
    Her latest book, Of Course, I'm Here, Right Now, is out on 3.31.26.

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    Want to learn more about supporting children and teens who are grieving? Sign up for our online courses here: https://classes.dougy.org/
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    51 m
  • The Million Stages Of Grief - Michael Reed On Finding His Way After Catastrophic Loss

    The Million Stages Of Grief - Michael Reed On Finding His Way After Catastrophic Loss
    Mar 5 2026
    What does grief look like when you lose your wife, two daughters, your home, and nearly everything you own - all in a single night? In this episode we talk with Michael Reed, a husband, father, and author whose life was forever changed when a wildfire swept through his community, taking the lives of his wife Constance, his older daughter Chloe, his youngest, Lily, their pets, and reducing their home to ashes. Nearly a decade later, Michael shares about the darkness he fell into, who was there to hold him and his son up, the ways he stays connected to his wife and daughters, and how he's re-engaged with life through writing and helping others. Michael Reed is the author of The Million Stages of Grief, a self-published book born from years of middle-of-the-night writing as he tried to make sense of catastrophic loss. He also became an unexpected public face of his community's tragedy - a role he has since transformed into a mission of talking openly about grief, faith, and learning to live again. In this episode: Michael shares vivid memories of his daughters: Chloe's extraordinary compassion and Lily's unforgettable sass and spirit. What it's like to lose not only the people you love but every physical trace of them - and how Michael keeps their memory close without tangible reminders. How his son Nicholas became a teacher for Michael in how to grieve. His experience with EMDR therapy and what acceptance means to him. The origin of The Million Stages of Grief: how raw, unedited Facebook posts led to a blog, then to a self-published book. Why the five stages of grief didn't work for Michael - and how he came to understand that grief can move through a million stages in a single day. A raw, honest account of his anger at God after the fire. What it was like to become the unwilling public spokesperson for a community's tragedy, and how he has reclaimed that platform on his own terms. His core message: loss is loss, no matter who or what you've lost — and using your own hurt to help others is how we change the world. Connect with Michael: Website - https://themillionstages.com/ Books - https://themillionstages.com/books IG - https://www.instagram.com/reedstrong2020 Transcript Want to learn more about supporting children and teens who are grieving? Sign up for our online courses here: https://classes.dougy.org/
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