In this special collaborative episode with Do It for The Gram, the International Enneagram Association Podcast and Fathoms, Milton is joined by Seth “Creek” Creekmore, Lindsey Marks and Lee Fields as they preview the upcoming IEA Enneagram Experience 2025 - Global Conference and Celebration. All four hosts will be in attendance, so they share what they are looking forward to at this summer’s annual event while also reflecting on this year’s theme — 30 years honoring Enneagram pioneers and future frontiers.

The Fathoms team will continue to host the IEA podcast with the traditional long form interviews with legendary figures as well as collect personal stories from attendees to deeply humanize this work. In their current Season Five, Fathoms has been focusing on the history of the Enneagram from the perspective of different schools and models to get a fuller picture of how they’ve come into this tool, providing an important and better framework and grounding before the conference.

Milton's Links and Handles:

Join KCEP Program: kaizen-enneagram-community.mn.co

The B.I.G. Enneagram Retreat: bigenneagramretreat.simvoly.com/application

Milton's Website: KaizenCareers.com

Upcoming Events: kaizencareers.com/upcoming-events

IEA Links:

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

IEA Podcast: international-enneagram.captivate.fm

Connect with Creek:

Instagram: @_creekmore

Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Pod: Awareness to Action Enneagram Podcast

Pod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. B

Connect with Lindsey:

IG: @lindseyfaithdm

Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Connect with Lee:

Web: enneagrammatic.com

IG: @enneagrammatic

In this episode of Do It for The Gram, Milton speaks with Michael Shahan, a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist practicing at Moss and Main Therapy Group in Kansas City, Missouri. Michael specializes in integrating the Enneagram into therapy, using it as a tool to help his clients work through trauma, find empathy and compassion for themselves, and move toward growth. He's also the author of The Enneagram in Practice Course.

Michael talks about mistyping and why it matters through his personal experience with being mistyped as a Social Nine. He shares what helped him process his journey after discovering that he’s a Type Six, why this type is often misunderstood and how it presents differently than expected.

Milton's Links and Handles:

Join KCEP Program: kaizen-enneagram-community.mn.co

The B.I.G. Enneagram Retreat: bigenneagramretreat.com/

Milton's Website: KaizenCareers.com

Connect with Michael:

Michael’s Website: michaelshahan.com

Email Michael: hello@michaelshahan.com

Michael’s Instagram: @michaelshahan_therapy

Coaching and resources for "Enneagram in Practice": michaelshahan.com/pages/enneagram-coaching

In this episode of Do It For The Gram podcast, Milton speaks with Joel Hubbard, an Enneagram thought leader and certified coach, co-founder of The Art of Growth and co-host of the Art of Growth Podcast. Joel talks about his book, “Hunters, Farmer, and Teamers: Harness Human Instincts to Elevate Impact,” that came out earlier this year and was co-written with Jim Zartman. He explains the concepts behind the book by explaining the concepts of hunter, farmer and teacher and how they correlate with the instincts.

Connect with Joel:

Joel’s website: theartofgrowth.org

Joel’s book: https://amzn.to/3FLjTbB

The Art of Growth Podcast: theartofgrowth.org/podcast

Milton's Links and Handles:

Join KCEP Program: kaizen-enneagram-community.mn.co

The B.I.G. Enneagram Retreat: bigenneagramretreat.com/

Milton's Website: KaizenCareers.com

Connect with Joel:

Joel’s website: theartofgrowth.org

Joel’s book: https://amzn.to/3FLjTbB

The Art of Growth Podcast: theartofgrowth.org/podcast