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The Chad & Cheese Podcast

The Chad & Cheese Podcast

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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.© 2025 The Chad & Cheese Podcast Economía Exito Profesional
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  • Knocking Off Indeed with Meghan Rhatigan

    Knocking Off Indeed with Meghan Rhatigan
    Jul 30 2025
    Live from UNLEASH America 2025, we’re serving up serious talent strategy with Meghan Rhatigan, VP of Talent Acquisition Experience at Marriott—and spoiler alert: job boards are dying, chatbots are rising, and recruitment will never be the same. Inside this episode: 🤖 The rise (and limits) of chatbots 🔍 Why some candidates still prefer search over automation 📉 The slow death of job boards—and what comes next 🌎 How politics and immigration are reshaping DEI 🏃‍♀️ Speed vs. fit: are we hiring fast or hiring right? Meghan brings 15 years of Marriott transformation to the table—tech, transparency, and a big ol’ dose of reality. From authentic brand engagement to building a global, inclusive talent pool, this one’s packed with frontline insights HR pros and tech nerds alike will want to hear. 🎧 Tune in or risk clinging to your outdated ATS and broken career page like it’s 2015. 00:00 - In this Episode 0:27 - Meghan's Elevator Pitch 2:50 - Tech Transformation at Marriott 4:00 - What Has Changed in 15 Year Period in HR 5:55 - What Learnings Meghan Has Got in the Last 5 Years in Terms of Technology 8:56 - Chatbot vs. Search: Understanding User Preferences 10:46 - Difference Between the Application Process 12:10 - Rethinking Spend: The Decline of Job Boards 19:03 - What Marriott Does Organically to Drive Traffic and Brand Awareness 20:30 - Importance of Transparency 25:12 - What Some Political Topics Impact Marriott 27:08 - Future of Recruiting 30:57 - Speed vs. Fit in Hiring 33:08 - Products Meghan Wish Existed Today
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    39 m
  • Europe: Hellowork vs. Indeed

    Europe: Hellowork vs. Indeed
    Jul 28 2025
    In this episode, hosts start off with, what else, soccer snark, discussing Chelsea's Trump drama, then a little Tour de France trash-talk. Chad roasts Monster Europe's collapse, blasting Randstad and Apollo as "corporate cowards" ditching workers like bad dates. They dissect HelloWork's lawsuit against Indeed for yanking ATS feeds—Chad calls it a data domination plot, Joel bets on French PR patriotism trumping legal odds. "Buy or Sell" gets savage: MetaView's €30M note-taker? Chad and Lieven sell (no moat, just meh), Joel buys for human touch. Traxlo's €1.6M gig app? Joel and Lieven buy for retail grunt work, Chad sells (automation apocalypse incoming). Ordio's €12M deskless payroll? Joel and Lieven buy, Chad sells (pricing poultry—er, paltry). EQT X snags Adevinta's Spanish ops, InfoJobs included? PE panic—Chad and Joel scream "abandon ship!" And Paris-based Teleperformance gobbles up Agents Only, a Vancouver-based staffing company specializing in online workers for AI data annotation and customer service, which is a fancy way of saying "workers who check expiration dates on milk."
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    48 m
  • Randstad Screws Monster

    Randstad Screws Monster
    Jul 25 2025
    On this week's episode, Moe comes out hot and spills on "Coldplay-Gate," that viral kiss-cam fiasco where a couple (turns out, cheating execs from Astronomer) bolted like they saw a ghost. It's not just gossip—it's schadenfreude gold, highlighting how the C-suite plays by different rules. Joel highlights ZipRececruiter's most recent marketing strategy: Embracing old school linear TV by sponsoring a new show on Fox. Chad rants about the new $250 "integrity fee" for US tourist visas—because nothing says "welcome" like a cash grab that could tank tourism before the 2026 World Cup. Ashby news brings the fire, snagging a whopping $50M Series D, doubling customers (now 2,700+ like OpenAI and Shopify), boosting revenue 135%, and barely dipping into last year's Series C. Why more cash? To evolve "at the speed of AI," building all-in-one recruiting magic—sourcing, scheduling, analytics—that users call "beautiful software." No more tool sprawl; it's the startup darling dethroning clunky vets like Greenhouse. Chad's verdict: Finally, an ATS nobody bitches about—refreshing in a moan-fest industry! Then, drama alert: Bold snatches Monster and CareerBuilder assets for $28.4M in a bankruptcy auction (up from a start of $7M). Great domains, SEO juice ... but Bold's predatory paywalls (mandatory sign-ups, fees for full job deets) scream "job seeker trap." Chad's not thrilled—hopes they don't prey harder with that Monster muscle. Randstad? Total villains. They boast $5.8B revenue and 3% EBITDA margins, but screw Monster employees worldwide. Days before mass layoffs, they gutted severance: From 1.5 weeks/year (up to 16) to a flat two weeks. Imagine losing $28K if you're a 20-year vet! In France, it's worse—brutal shutdowns, no support, leaving taxpayers footing unemployment bills. Vendors? Stiffed millions after Monster ran up tabs they knew were doomed. Chad's furious: "Corporate welfare at its finest." Until CEOs like don orange jumpsuits, the little guys get proper f***ed. AI corner: Perplexity's CEO says says recruiter jobs are soon to be a thing of the past, and Salesforce's Mark Benioff probably agrees, as his company is doing up to 50% or more with less. Moe's skeptical: "Hype to sell shares!" Chad sees task automation (bye, scheduling drudgery) but demands AI taxes and UBI pronto. Jobs evolve, but painful contractions ahead? We'll be watching. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Welcome Back 02:21 - Maureen's Disney Cruise Experience 04:04 - Tribute to Matt Lavery 07:09 - Coldplay Gate: The Viral Incident 08:52 - Integrity Fees for Tourists 10:19 - Ashby: A Positive ATS Experience 12:41 - Bold's Acquisition and Job Seeker Concerns 15:59 - Ronstadt's Treatment of Employees 18:29 - The Impact on Vendors and Corporate Accountability 23:23 - Future of Recruitment and AI Integration 32:14 - Closing Thoughts and Dad Jokes
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    54 m
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