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A Carnivore's Crisis with Rachel Khoo

By: Rachel Khoo,Nicola Harvey
Narrated by: Rachel Khoo
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  • Ep. 1: Battlelines

    Ep. 1: Battlelines
    Aug 31 2020

    Cook and author Rachel Khoo’s motto is butter makes everything better. So the news that cows are destroying the planet has come as quite an affront. Rachel cares as much about a healthy environment as she does a delicious croissant. Yet suddenly she’s being asked to choose: plants or cows. To find out if a switch to veganism can really slow global warming, Rachel meets the devoted animal campaigners fueling the fight... Will they convince her to go vegan to help save the planet?
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    26 mins
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  • Ep. 2: A Tale of Two Tables

    Ep. 2: A Tale of Two Tables
    Aug 31 2020

    Contemplating a switch to veganism Rachel Khoo asks what we risk losing if we start to reject food for the planet’s sake. What if veganism destroys more than it saves? In the Tale of Two Tables, Rachel meets a dairy farmer, a burger cook, and a Michelin-starred vegan chef who are prioritising the environment above all else.
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  • Ep. 3: The Hunt

    Ep. 3: The Hunt
    Aug 31 2020

    Chef and author Rachel Khoo remains unconvinced that embracing a vegan diet is the only way to help save the planet. So she considers the merits of sourcing one’s own meat... from the wild.
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    28 mins
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About the Creator and Performer

Rachel Khoo’s unconventional food background has helped formulate her unique culinary touch. She graduated with a Bachelors degree in Art & Design from the renowned Central Saint Martins College of Art and Design in London. Thereafter she worked for a luxury fashion brand, doing PR and e-marketing. Ultimately, her passion for pâtisserie lured her to Paris, where she studied at Le Cordon Bleu and obtained a pastry diploma. Her role as an international food creative has spanned six-course dinners and workshops in places as far-flung as London, Paris, Berlin, Milan, Melbourne, Sydney and Buenos Aires. Rachel’s TV cookery shows have aired around the world including on BBC2 in the UK, Channel 7 and SBS in Australia. She is a food writer whose cookbooks have been translated into multiple languages. Her sixth book The Little Swedish Kitchen was published by Michael Joseph. The TV show accompanying the cookbook aired in July 2019 on The Food Network UK and since aired in Choice TV New Zealand and NHK Japan. CBC Canada, SBS Australia, BBC Asia, RTL Germany.

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  • mb
  • 11-04-21

Vegetarian propaganda

This is a vegetarian propaganda podcast in disguise, sneakily, under the disguise of objectivity, trying to promote the idea that eating meat is bad for the planet. Nothing is further from truth.
Animals coevolved with humans and in agriculture they regenerate the soil. Cattle is carbon negative, if grass fed.
Regardless, meat is the most nutrient dense superfood there is and the one we evolved to eat.
Read Weston A. Price’s groundbreaking book, Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, to see how traditional humans ate and how healthy this food made them, and what happened if they started incorporating the food of modern commerce. Read Stefensson’s Not by Bread Alone ( The Fat of the Land) to see that a person can be healthy and well on meat and fat alone, moreover, cure from ailments that way. Please educate yourself and don’t give up to the vegetarian propaganda!

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Educate yourself and grow

This podcast is a great way of educating yourself about the pros and cons of agriculture and the meat industry. It's presented in a simple, unbiased way that gives everyone (carnivores and vegans) a chance to present their way of living and eating. By doing so it allows you to choose your path and learn that not everything (including food) is black and white. Thank you, Rachel!

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Really prompted discussion

This was even better than I hoped it would be. They presented all sides of the argument equally but without being preachy. It went a lot deeper than "is killing animals bad?" or "are you helping save the planet?" It answered some questions I have and left me with new questions and things to look into. It wrapped up without telling you what the right answer is, leaving space for each person to choose for themselves.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 07-30-20

Thought provoking

interesting to hear the different views from all sides. Personally I think we need to simplify our existence on this planet on the whole. Money rules the world unfortunately and it wont be easy. We are just one animal out of billions of organisms on this planet, yet we are the most destructive of all. Something makes me think we are deluded calling others vermin or plagues when we ourselves should have those titles. Nature works in cycles and one day she will get us back epicly, that is excluding the natural disasters etc she's thrown at us so far.

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  • David J James
  • 08-18-20

There was some interesting information

but a lot of the best arguments countering the assertions of veganism were not even touched upon. I would describe it as a half-baked apologia pro vita suidae.

A lot of the reports were anecdotal, boring and repetitive and the signal to noise ratio could have been significantly improved.

We never really got to the bottom of why monocropping wheat is bad for the natural environment. How wheat itself has turned into a harmful thing. The value of Keto, the difficulty of doing keto on a vegan diet. The problem of essential amino acids. The impossibility of doing organic farming without animals as artificial fertilisers are essential. The need for low tillage, more earthworms, proper dressings, lower agrochemicals, better cover crops and management, the economic issues over the rigid doctrinaire approach of organic and how something called biological farming developed by someone called Gary Zimmer in America is the likely thought leader going forward to give us the 80:20 middle ground and not some unknown New Zealander who is going to write a book but has never actually read one, by his own admission.

Yes, there were some good bits, but I was hoping it was going to be the carnivorous raptor act that doctrinal Veganism richly deserves. It wasn't.

Neither did it address much the issue that if we are going to be using biomass for ethanol there really isn't space to make food for 10 billion people whichever way, and if we make food for 10 billion, then when the famine hits at 15 billion will the Vegans want to take responsibility for 10 billion starvation deaths?

There are plenty more themes this could have explored. It needed to get into debate and not have everyone pretending to be at some vague consensus.

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  • Nuno Pinheiro
  • 08-15-20

Quite Biased

At least until episode 3, the podcast is quite biased towards justifying meat eating. In some points there is a debate and shows opinions on both sides, but justifying meat eating takes most of the time. In a full episode about hunting only hunters are heard, and there is only a brief mention of how hunting is not a scalable solution for the society as a whole

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  • Anupadin
  • 08-08-20

Very Thought Provoking

As a Vegan I thought I had all the answers but Rachel raises a number of alternative answers to the eco-disaster that is the meal and dairy industry. Whether you are vegan, vegetarian, omni or just plain carnivorous, you'll benefit from listening to this thought provoking blog.

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  • Jane Law
  • 08-07-20

so worth hearing

Open-minded, well researched, so interesting, so much more to think about than we hear from the loudest voices. As a doctor I have seen too many unwell vegans, but as someone who has cared about the environment for 50 years(yes there are many of us older people who have!) I am very concerned about animal husbandry and food miles, the latter being a big issue even for virtuous vegans. Rachel Khoo is very personable, a great interviewer and presenter, able to voice certainly my dilemmas on this subject, and I was also influenced by a wonderful grandma! I especially loved the Maori farmer.

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  • Stefan Tredwell
  • 07-30-20

A balanced dive into the world of food....

Thoroughly enjoyed this from start to finish. we have become so used to be being food shamed (meat = murder) and it was refreshing to hear food being discussed in a open, non judgemental way. It has given me lots to look up and think about, and it has given me the confidence to start dialogues around what my friends eat, without judgement.

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  • leanne pollard
  • 08-03-20

thought provoking

I loved listening to this series, I listened to them all in quick succession.
Rachel has the perfect voice for audio and is pleasant to listen to.
A carnivores crisis is thought provoking whilst being informative on all sides of the debate. I will recommend.

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  • Alex Wood
  • 01-26-21

gives equal weight to unequal stances

this podcast suffered from a problem we sadly see all over media, namely a flawed notion of what constitutes balanced coverage.

In this podcast she interviews people from across the whole spectrum of opinion when it comes to tue sustainability of food production. This in itself isnt a problem. The problem is that each person is presented in the same way, as an equally legitimate player airing an equally valid opinion. This is a common fallacy, that to be balanced we have to just let all opinions have their say. But all opinions arent equal. Some are supported by a wealth of data, some have little to no evidence. Some cause harm, others reduce it. Heres an example from this podcast:

- pasture raised beef is presented as a sustainable alternative to intensively farmed beef. A 30 seccond Google Scholar search shows this us false: pasture and grass reared beef uses far MORE land, energy and water than intensively farmed beef. Which is obvious when you think about it.


in the case of food sustainability, the evidence is overwhelmingly in the favour of those advocating for plant based and against meat consumption. Theres is a lot of nuance in there of course,the real world is complex. But the simple truth underpinning it all is that we need to eat much less meat if we're to have any chance of saving the living planet

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  • TUAL
  • 10-04-20

Ok but missing some keep points

As a vegan, I wanted to hear both sides of the argument as I believe it is important to challenge one’s beliefs. This podcast attempts to do that but I feel the vegan arguments are not explored as deeply as the carnivore ones. It would have helped if the author had collaborated with a vegan journalist to ensure both sides were balanced and equally researched. A lot of time is spent on meat alternatives, giving a distorted view of what a vegan diet can be like. WFPB diet (whole food plant based diet) is not mentioned once and very few references to this type of diet are made. That’s a major flaw as this is a way to address two major issues:
1) the relation between diet and health: I remember some people interviewed saying meat is good for you but no scientific evidence to back this is given... maybe because health is an area where the WFPB vegan argument beats the carnivore one very easily.
2) eating organic sustainably bred meat is for the few, and so much time is spent discussing this when it is not a scalable solution as opposed to eating a whole food plant based diet. Encouraging people to learn to cook their own food is the way and it is wrong and misleading to claim that it takes more time or money.
Despite her attempts to look at both sides of the arguments, the author falls victim to her own unconscious bias. I grew up on a French farm and a carnivore diet, and I love cooking, so I can relate to the author. I hope she can produce a second series, looking at the WFPB diet arguments as it would really help people to see the whole argument.

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  • Squirreltz
  • 08-15-20

Not what you expect at all! Loved it

As an omnivorous family on a budget, I've learned loads! Thought provoking, balanced, fair -thankyou

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  • Anonymous User
  • 08-02-20

Complete waste of time

This podcast completely misrepresents the vegan v meat eater debate. Obviously there are ways of producing food that comes from plants or animals in ways that are more or less harmful to the environment. As she stated, we do not need to eat animals to be healthy. How can you justify taking the life of a sentient being out of absolutely no necessity? How can you then claim that killing an animal is ethical or moral?

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  • Gyan
  • 07-29-20

Excellent food for thought!

In the past five years, I've been vegetarian, vegan(ish), and a meat-eater. At every junction, I've tried my best to process the complicated feelings I have about the way I—and the rest of the world—consume meat and dairy, and all the things that influence our choices. This podcast interrogates every one of these influences from culture, to sustainability, to health and nutrition, to animal cruelty in a thoughtful, practical, and judgement-free way. I appreciate the care and research that went into every episode and though I still haven't decided where I land within the meat-eating debate, this podcast has reminded me why it's such a personal and incredibly complex decision. Highly recommend!

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  • Anonymous User
  • 08-03-20

Brilliant!

This podcast is a must for anyone that eats!! A well balanced look at meat consumption, veganism, sustainability, health and its implications for our society.

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  • Steph Saro
  • 08-16-20

I was expecting different

I was so excited to listen to this podcast hoping it would share some unbias science of the vegan debate, but it was a lot of people's opinions. the performance was fine, it dragged a bit sometimes, and often it would pause for that but too long where you check your phone to see if the app is even working still. Not my favourite, but I finished hoping it would give me some deeper insights, but really just kind of covered off all the opinions and things you'd know already if you were interested in this topic. Might be interesting for people who are new to the debate. Just for me, personally, I was wishing for a little more to chew on.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 08-06-20

Loved This!!

Absolutely enjoyed this! It was so informative and it really gave a fair all round view of the issue. I liked that it explored all sides of the argument. I learnt alot and have started applying some of what I learnt from this, in my own life. I'd love to hear a second season expanding even further!

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  • Marg
  • 08-09-20

Essential listening.

An intelligent, thought-provoking and comprehensively researched podcast which prompts us to start a conversation about not only our food choices, but how food is produced. In an unbiased way, it reminds us that land stewardship is our collective responsibility and that all life forms have a role to play in order for our ecosystems to thrive. It is informative, challenging and objective - essential listening.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 08-14-20

Balanced exploration of a tough topic

A really great Beginning to more targeted research. Trying to find balance can be hard but as usual there are no absolute truths.

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  • Paname toujours
  • 10-08-20

A current dilemma discussed from both sides

A really engaging topic, with no easy answers and no judgement, although all agree people can change big corporations by voting with their wallets. recommend.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 08-31-20

Omnivorous

Very easy to listen to. Really made me think about where I stand on this issue.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 11-24-20

Omnivore is not Carnivore

So many issues with the way it was presented... it had vegan bias disguised as neutral, could have gone way more into the actual facts of Carnivore and done some personal research not just believe what the vegan people said.

It had so much potential but missed the target by a long way... Everything was based on the methane gas 'fact', but it's unsustainable farming that is the problem!

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