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- Ring of Fire, Book 1
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- Length: 19 hrs and 22 mins
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New York Times best-selling author Eric Flint has received glowing critical praise for his Ring of Fire alternate history series. In this first installment, a West Virginia town is transported from the year 2000 to 1631 Germany at the height of the Thirty Years’ War. Thrust into conflict, the town residents must also contend with moral issues, such as who should be considered a citizen.
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- Randall
- 11-26-18
NOT ALL THAT BAD
Good idea for a story! An entire town is somehow transported back in time, over 400 years. The town and the surrounding land is also moved to medieval Germany. They are immediately drawn into a battle, which is part of a larger war.
While the idea is good, the actual writing is not. It seems puerile and weak. They are taken back in time , but have all sorts of illegal weapons and plenty of ammo. I'm all for lots of guns and good action in books, but where does all this stuff come from and how do the never run out of it?
The author has heavy left leaning background, so you get an unrealistic cast of heroes and characters. I can certainly overlook his lefty drivel and enjoy the book. I just keep in mind that the author is a bit simple .
I am looking forward to the next in this series.
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- Lee
- 11-05-12
Velveeta
I like sci-fi and fantasy, and can accept the initial premise that a town in modern day West Virginia has been mysteriously sent back to 1632 Germany. That is the cool part of the story. The problem is with the characters - they are mostly caricatures. And while that is fine for many entertaining novels with heavy action, this book, after the opening sequences, spends a lot of time on character "development." If you can call following the thoughts and dialogue of stock characters "development." Chunks of the book read like a romance novel, with breathless, love-at-first-site encounters and courtship. The Americans, almost without exception, are an amazingly virtuous lot, that embody the best American principals - hard work, self reliance, inclusion, democracy, tolerance, practicality, fairness, ingenuity - without fail. This is in stark contrast to the bad guys - who are truly vile. The narrator, George Guidall, is so good, that he can make this pulp seem to have substance. Yet Guidall can only cover for the author for so long. Eventually, you notice that your velveeta topped cheeseburger is missing the meat, and you only have a mouthful of cheese.
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- Sara
- 09-17-13
Great idea superficial follow through
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I really thought the idea of the clash of personalities, technology, and perspective was a great premise for a terrific book. The problem I had was that the characters were only partially developed and explored. There were many missed opportunities to build the story line and really pull in some historic research. The final rationale for the "ring of fire" happening was sort of dropped in your lap at the end and really should have been built more slowly throughout the story. It was entertaining but lacked the back bone it needed to make it a really engaging book.
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- pierre-luc
- 10-31-12
If only it was written for adults...
Ok, the headline may be harsh, but it explains why a good performance and a good story manage to combine into a sum that's less than the individual parts.
The writing is decent, if unremarkable. The historical research adequate. The pacing ok. What's wrong then? Well, this is a time-travel book confronting modern Americans with Enlightenment Europeans in the midst of a religious war. So, if you abstract from the lack of 1-any discussion (even in passing) of religion, 2-any serious conflict between past and present values, 3-any character (modern or past) being remotely phased by the juxtaposition of times and 4-the lack of character development or ambiguity, then you will love this book.
Since I want this review to be helpful to prospective readers, I have to reiterate that it's not bad (if it stunk there would not be several sequels), it's just that the plot description suggested (at least to me) more thoughtful entertainment than what feels like a formulaic TV script.
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- clifford
- 07-04-17
disjointed and poorly written
This is a very bad book. I almost couldn't give it 2 stars. It starts off well enough. But then it gets mired in very bad writing.
First, the story line repeatedly goes down just a god awful romance line. You follow two characters for a few chapters as they fall in love, then repeat with two more charactrs. Nothing here against falling in love, just against bad writing. And the writing here is plodding.
Secondly, the story shifts wildly from one character to another. The best part of the book is when someone in the town is figuring out how to get some new technology in place. New as in industrial age tech.
Thirdly, the worst part of the book is when Flint decides to go 100 pages into detail on old battles from the 100 year war from the perspectives of the generals. This writing is beyond bad. Its painful.
There have been many authors to tackle this fish out of water story line before. Where a group of soldiers are flung to a different universe and are left in a world where their tech is hundreds of years ahead of the rest of humanity. Try the Lost Regiment for a much better story than 1632.
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- Darren Lathen
- 09-07-18
General storyline written by 12 year old
This was frustrating. I wanted to like it. It made me curious to learn more of the history of the 30-years war. The historical characters and plots surrounding them are not half bad. But the "modern" cast of castaway characters are just plain awful. People are divided up into the white hats and black hats. A black hat is BAD guy. Every motivation, every action, every word of the black hats is bad. The white hats are always good and right and true, oh, yeah, and they're all union dudes, so naturally anyone who has ever been a business owner (read: management) is BAD guy.
Contrast this approach with Harry Turtledove, "Southern Victory" series (also excellently read by George Guidall). In that series the reader is given a much more complete picture of characters -- a picture that demonstrates how characters are both good and bad; how they are often constructed by their experiences and upbringings. You might admire a character for certain aspects and just be furious at him for others. In comparison, this story falls flat.
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- J. S. Harbour
- 01-27-17
Boring
Struggled to finish, with boring characters, out of place obsession with Jews and the Holocaust, and 50s-era American values (with lots of F-bombs, if that makes any sense).
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- marianne
- 04-15-15
Don't waste time or money
Would you try another book from Eric Flint and/or George Guidall?
I would just to give them another chance. But, if it is anything like this one that would be the end of them for me.
What could Eric Flint have done to make this a more enjoyable book for you?
Have a plot that is understandable, one can follow and doesn't drone on and on to no avail. I kept listening (audio) but it didn't get better so I quit half way through. Just couldn't justify any more tme.
What reaction did this book spark in you? Anger, sadness, disappointment?
I was confused and disappointed.
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- Carey
- 03-27-13
THE WORST.
If you could sum up 1632 in three words, what would they be?
A boring waste of time. Short on action, long of love story.
Would you ever listen to anything by Eric Flint again?
no
How could the performance have been better?
more action and a more exciting narrator.
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Hard to finish
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- Bonnie
- 06-22-17
over rated
What a dissapointment. After hearing such raves I expectred a well written beginning to an exciting series. Well, there was no excitement. What there was included poor character development that nonetheless dragged on endlessly, alternative history that dragged on endlessly, soppy love stories ... it went on and on.
If you look at ratings before making a book purchase, be skekptical of this one!!!
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An excellent continuation
- By Charles Gibbs on 07-06-19
By: Eric Flint
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1812
- The Rivers of War (Trail of Glory, Book 1)
- By: Eric Flint
- Narrated by: Franklin Pierson
- Length: 22 hrs and 29 mins
- Unabridged
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In this alternate history of the American frontier and the Jacksonian era, a small change takes place in the Battle of the Horseshoe Bend during the War of 1812. What results is a cascade of new developments that becomes an avalanche. In our world, Ensign Sam Houston, just turned 21, led the charge on the creek barricade in that battle and almost died from a terrible wound that took him a year to recover from. In this world, his wound is minor, so he is able to continue fighting the British—and develop his close relationship with Andrew Jackson much sooner.
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Thoroughly enjoyable!
- By Nicole S on 02-06-23
By: Eric Flint
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An Oblique Approach
- Belisarius Saga, Book 1
- By: Eric Flint, David Drake
- Narrated by: Pete Bradbury
- Length: 15 hrs and 1 min
- Unabridged
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In Northern India, the Malwa have created an empire of unexampled evil. Guided or possessed by an intelligence from beyond time, with new weapons, old treachery, and an implacable will to power, the Malwa will sweep over the whole Earth. Only three things stand between the Malwa and their plan of eternal domination: the empire of Rome in the East, Byzantium; a crystal with vision; and a man named Belisarius, the greatest commander Earth has ever known....
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YEEEEEEEES!
- By Andrew on 08-26-19
By: Eric Flint, and others
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The Alexander Inheritance
- By: Eric Flint, Gorg Huff, Paula Goodlett
- Narrated by: Graham Winton
- Length: 15 hrs and 1 min
- Unabridged
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Twice before, mysterious cosmic catastrophes have sent portions of the Earth across space and back in time - first, with the Grantville Disaster in West Virginia, and then again with a maximum security prison in southern Illinois. Now, the planet is struck with yet another such cataclysm, whose direct impact falls upon the Queen of the Sea, a cruise ship in the Caribbean. When the convulsions subside, the crew and passengers of the ship discover that they have arrived in a new and frightening world. They are in the Mediterranean now, not the Caribbean.
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Great premise, but...
- By Great Tutu Kona on 08-11-20
By: Eric Flint, and others
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Ring of Fire II
- Ring of Fire Anthologies, Book 2
- By: Eric Flint
- Narrated by: George Guidall
- Length: 20 hrs and 7 mins
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A mysterious cosmic force the Ring of Fire has hurled the town of Grantville from 20th century West Virginia back to 17th century Europe, and into the heart of the Thirty Years War. With their seemingly magical technology, and their radical ideas of freedom and justice, the time-lost West Virginians have allied with Gustavus Adolphus, King of Sweden, to form the Confederated Principalities of Europe, changing the course of history in ways both small and large.
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Tech. issues
- By Donald Talton on 06-11-21
By: Eric Flint
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1638: The Sovereign States
- Ring of Fire
- By: Eric Flint, Gorg Huff, Paula Goodlett
- Narrated by: George Guidall
- Length: 11 hrs and 44 mins
- Unabridged
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The United Sovereign States of Russia struggles to set in place the traditions and legal precedents that will let it turn into a constitutional monarchy with freedom and opportunity for all its citizens. At the same time, they’re trying to balance the power of the states and the federal government.
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Giving a better vision of what Russia could have become!!
- By Karl Scheffrahn on 12-04-23
By: Eric Flint, and others
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1637
- The Polish Maelstrom
- By: Eric Flint
- Narrated by: George Guidall
- Length: 15 hrs and 46 mins
- Unabridged
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A cosmic accident sets the modern town of Grantville, West Virginia, down in war-torn 17th-century Europe and a new nation is forged. Now when United States of Europe ally King Gustavas of Sweden invades Poland, the U.S. of E. is dragged into a full-scale European war against ruthless opponents. Meanwhile Mike Stearns, wily and courageous leader of the up-time West Virginians, has been turned out of office in an election. But, like Churchill (before and after him) Stearns is not done yet.
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An excellent continuation
- By Charles Gibbs on 07-06-19
By: Eric Flint
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1812
- The Rivers of War (Trail of Glory, Book 1)
- By: Eric Flint
- Narrated by: Franklin Pierson
- Length: 22 hrs and 29 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall
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Performance
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Story
In this alternate history of the American frontier and the Jacksonian era, a small change takes place in the Battle of the Horseshoe Bend during the War of 1812. What results is a cascade of new developments that becomes an avalanche. In our world, Ensign Sam Houston, just turned 21, led the charge on the creek barricade in that battle and almost died from a terrible wound that took him a year to recover from. In this world, his wound is minor, so he is able to continue fighting the British—and develop his close relationship with Andrew Jackson much sooner.
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Thoroughly enjoyable!
- By Nicole S on 02-06-23
By: Eric Flint
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An Oblique Approach
- Belisarius Saga, Book 1
- By: Eric Flint, David Drake
- Narrated by: Pete Bradbury
- Length: 15 hrs and 1 min
- Unabridged
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Overall
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Performance
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Story
In Northern India, the Malwa have created an empire of unexampled evil. Guided or possessed by an intelligence from beyond time, with new weapons, old treachery, and an implacable will to power, the Malwa will sweep over the whole Earth. Only three things stand between the Malwa and their plan of eternal domination: the empire of Rome in the East, Byzantium; a crystal with vision; and a man named Belisarius, the greatest commander Earth has ever known....
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YEEEEEEEES!
- By Andrew on 08-26-19
By: Eric Flint, and others
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The Alexander Inheritance
- By: Eric Flint, Gorg Huff, Paula Goodlett
- Narrated by: Graham Winton
- Length: 15 hrs and 1 min
- Unabridged
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Overall
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Performance
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Story
Twice before, mysterious cosmic catastrophes have sent portions of the Earth across space and back in time - first, with the Grantville Disaster in West Virginia, and then again with a maximum security prison in southern Illinois. Now, the planet is struck with yet another such cataclysm, whose direct impact falls upon the Queen of the Sea, a cruise ship in the Caribbean. When the convulsions subside, the crew and passengers of the ship discover that they have arrived in a new and frightening world. They are in the Mediterranean now, not the Caribbean.
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Great premise, but...
- By Great Tutu Kona on 08-11-20
By: Eric Flint, and others
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The Guns of the South
- By: Harry Turtledove
- Narrated by: Paul Costanzo
- Length: 24 hrs and 51 mins
- Unabridged
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January 1864: General Robert E. Lee faces defeat. The Army of Northern Virginia is ragged and ill-equipped. Gettysburg has broken the back of the Confederacy and decimated its manpower. Then, Andries Rhoodie, a strange man with an unplaceable accent, approaches Lee with an extraordinary offer. Rhoodie demonstrates an amazing rifle: its rate of fire is incredible, its lethal efficiency breathtaking - and Rhoodie guarantees unlimited quantities to the Confederates. The name of the weapon is the AK-47.
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Loved the book but...
- By Tami A. on 10-28-16
By: Harry Turtledove
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In the Heart of Darkness
- Belisarius Saga, Book 2
- By: David Drake, Eric Flint
- Narrated by: Pete Bradbury
- Length: 14 hrs and 50 mins
- Unabridged
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The Malwa Empire has conquered 6th century India and is forging the subcontinent's vast population into an invincible weapon of tyranny. Belisarius, the finest general of his age, must save the world. Guided by visions from a future that may never be, he and a band of comrades penetrate the Malwa heartland, seeking the core of the enemy's power. And when Belisarius leads the forces of good, only a fool would side with evil.
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Finally!
- By Bugra M Gezer on 10-27-19
By: David Drake, and others
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1635: The Wars for the Rhine
- By: Anette Pedersen
- Narrated by: George Guidall
- Length: 9 hrs and 36 mins
- Unabridged
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In the year 1635, the Rhineland is in turmoil. The impact of the Ring of Fire, the cosmic accident which transported the small modern West Virginia town of Grantville to Europe in the early 17th century, has only aggravated a situation that was already chaotic. Perhaps nowhere in central Europe did the Thirty Years' War produce so much upheaval as it did in the borderlands between France and Germany. Archbishop Ferdinand of Cologne shares the religious fanaticism of his older brother, Duke Maximilian of Bavaria.
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Worst waste of time of the entire 1632 Saga yet!!
- By ICUDoc on 03-15-23
By: Anette Pedersen
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Island in the Sea of Time
- By: S. M. Stirling
- Narrated by: Todd McLaren
- Length: 25 hrs and 8 mins
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During a perfect spring evening on Nantucket, a violent storm erupts and a dome of crawling, colored fire blankets the island. When the howling winds subside and the night skies clear, the stars appear to have shifted. The mainland has become a wilderness of unbroken forest, where tools of bronze and stone litter the beaches, and primitive natives scatter in terror.
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Listen to this before "Dies the fire"
- By Kevin McLaughlin on 11-26-08
By: S. M. Stirling
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American Empire
- Blood and Iron
- By: Harry Turtledove
- Narrated by: George Guidall
- Length: 24 hrs and 31 mins
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In 1920, as veterans question the very nation they fought for, socialist Upton Sinclair challenges Teddy Roosevelt for the presidency. And in the defeated Confederacy, a fiery racist whips his followers into a frenzy.
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Please offer more Turtledove books
- By emdefmek on 06-13-08
By: Harry Turtledove
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Mutineer's Moon
- By: David Weber
- Narrated by: Jonathan Todd Ross
- Length: 11 hrs and 10 mins
- Unabridged
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