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A preacher and a trauma counselor tackle life’s hardest problems with biblical truth and evidence-based therapy. Each episode blends Scripture, psychology, and practical tools you can use today—so you can move from wounds to wisdom, with the Word lighting the way© 2025 Doug Gregory & Jamie Shepperd Espiritualidad Higiene y Vida Saludable Psicología Psicología y Salud Mental
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  • EP.9: Unstuck: Resilience & Roots - Coming Back, Not Bouncing Back

    EP.9: Unstuck: Resilience & Roots - Coming Back, Not Bouncing Back
    Dec 24 2025

    Watch the video version here: https://youtu.be/5vAYx1K7i_Q

    Podcast Show Notes

    Episode Title: EP.9: Unstuck: Resilience & Roots - Coming Back, Not Bouncing Back

    Episode Summary: In this episode of Wounds, Wisdom, and the Word, Doug and Jamie kick off a new series exploring the "Top 10 Reasons Why People Get Stuck." Working their way up from the bottom of the list, they tackle reasons #10 (Lack of Resiliency) and #9 (No Foundation for Growth).

    The conversation moves beyond the cliché of "bouncing back" to the deeper concept of "coming back" transformed. From humorous stories about surviving college math classes to the serious reality of job loss, Doug and Jamie discuss how our childhood examples—or lack thereof—shape our ability to navigate life’s hardest hits. They conclude with a look at John 5, asking the difficult question: Do you actually want to be healed?

    Key Topics Discussed:

    • Defining Resilience: Why "bouncing back" implies returning to where you were, while "coming back" implies growth and a new normal.
    • The "Embrace the Suck" Mentality: How the willingness to endure discomfort is the prerequisite for change.
    • Failing Forward: Discussing Dr. Sasha Shillcutt’s TED Talk and the five habits of resilient people .
    • Foundations for Growth: How parental modeling (or the lack of it) affects our ability to problem-solve as adults.
    • Men and Identity: A candid look at why men define themselves by what they conquer and do.
    • Biblical Application: The invalid at the Pool of Bethesda (John 5) and the necessity of "want to".

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 – Introduction: Moving from "Comfortable in the Mud" to the Top 10 List.
    • 04:30 – Bouncing vs. Coming Back: Why we shouldn’t aim for our old normal.
    • 09:00 – Storytime: Doug’s mom, a career change, and the stress of math class.
    • 16:00 – The Art of Failing Forward: 5 traits of resilient people.
    • 22:00 – The Wright Brothers & Elon Musk: Failure as a stepping stone.
    • 33:00 – Perspective is a superpower.
    • 40:00 – Reason #9: No Foundation for Growth (What did our parents model?).
    • 50:00 – "Roger Gregory would be proud": The value of watching someone solve problems.
    • 52:00 – Scripture Study: John 5:1-9 and the question, "Do you want to be healed?"

    Resources & References:

    • TED Talk: "The Art of Failing Forward" by Dr. Sasha Shillcutt.
    • Scripture Reference: John 5:1-9 (ESV).

    Scripture of the Week:

    "When Jesus saw him lying there and knew that he had already been there a long time, he said to him, 'Do you want to be healed?'" — John 5:6 (ESV)
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    58 m
  • Ep. 8 - Being To Comfortable In The Mud

    Ep. 8 - Being To Comfortable In The Mud
    Dec 9 2025

    Watch The Video Version Here: https://youtu.be/9kw2cu3yeaA

    Episode Summary:In this episode of Wounds, Wisdom in the Word, Doug and Jamie dive deep into the concept of getting "stuck in the mud" of life. Doug opens with a study of Exodus 8, focusing on the baffling moment when Pharaoh chooses to spend one more night with a plague of frogs rather than being healed immediately.


    Jamie brings her counseling expertise to the table with a "Top 10 List" of reasons why people resist change, even when their current situation is painful. From trauma responses to the fear of the unknown, we explore why we choose the "discomfort we know" over the freedom we don’t.


    Key Topics & Timestamps:

    • [00:00:24] Jamie’s return and recovery.
    • [00:01:26] The Bible Study: Exodus 8 and the Plague of Frogs. Why did Pharaoh say "Tomorrow"?.
    • [00:03:55] The spiritual application: Why do we delay healing and change?.
    • [00:13:31] The Mud Hole Analogy: How to help others without getting stuck in the mud with them (The Wrecker Metaphor).
    • [00:19:05] Jamie’s Top 10 Reasons We Stay Stuck:
      • 10. Absence of natural resilience.
    • 9. No foundation of growth/lack of role models.
    • 8. Rescuing others but not yourself (Codependency).
    • 7. No self-worth (Feeling unworthy of healing).
    • 6. People Pleasing.
    • 5. Feeling unprotected (Vulnerability).
    • 4. Uncertainty of what the future looks like.
    • 3. Lack of Security (Maslow’s Hierarchy).
    • 2. Fear of the change/unknown.
    • 1. Being too comfortable in the "mud".
    • [00:44:39] The "Poopy Diaper" analogy: It stinks, but it's warm and it's mine.
    • [00:45:15] The difference between wanting it fixed vs. wanting to fix it.
    • [00:50:55] Funny Story Time: Remembering Jerry Clower.

    Scripture References:

    • Exodus 8:1-15: The Second Plague (Frogs).
    • Mark 12:31: Loving your neighbor as yourself.

    Memorable Quotes:

    • "Why do you wanna spend one more night with the frogs?" — Doug
    • "If you're working harder than your client, you're working too hard." — Jamie
    • "If you plan to help anybody, you can't be in the mud with them. The best place for you to be is on the solid ground." — Jamie
    • "There's a big difference between wanting it fixed and wanting to fix it." — Doug
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    53 m
  • The Doubter’s Disease: Understanding OCD | Wounds, Wisdom, and the Word Ep. 7

    The Doubter’s Disease: Understanding OCD | Wounds, Wisdom, and the Word Ep. 7
    Dec 1 2025
    Watch the video version here: https://youtu.be/ck0796CM3SwDetailed Show Notes (Podcast Episode Summary)Episode Title:OCD: Living With the Doubter’s Disease — A Conversation With Chandler CoffmanEpisode OverviewIn this vulnerable, insightful, and often humorous episode of Wounds, Wisdom & the Word, Doug sits down with Chandler Coffman, a close friend, deep thinker, and practicing theologian, to unpack Chandler’s real-life journey with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD). The conversation explores what OCD actually is (and what it isn’t), how intrusive thoughts operate, how OCD grows over time, and how healing happens through therapy, medication, honesty, and faith.This episode will resonate deeply with anyone battling anxiety, OCD, rumination, intrusive thoughts, or a sense of being “alone” in their struggle. Chandler brings clarity, honesty, and theological depth — and Doug brings the grounding, humor, and Scripture-centered compassion this podcast is known for.Key Themes & Topics Covered1. Setting the Stage — After Thanksgiving & Holiday StressDoug opens by introducing Chandler and explaining why his story “runs deep.” Chandler’s openness about OCD provides a pathway for others to understand their own mental health.2. Chandler’s Early Life SignalsAlways “extra inquisitive”High-strung, anxious, wiredRumination beginning in young adulthoodLiving alone in a small apartment near his parents and dealing with isolationA medical scare that led to Googling symptoms — a huge trigger that spiraled his OCD ep7OCDAudioPodcast3. What OCD Actually Is — And What It Isn’tChandler clarifies the biggest misconception:“OCD is NOT wanting things straight or neat.”Instead, OCD involves:Obsessions: intrusive, unwanted thoughtsCompulsions: attempts to soothe anxiety caused by those thoughtsThemes: violence, sexuality, religion, germs, health, etc.Rumination: the endless mental replay loopHe describes how OCD can attach to anything, and how sufferers often hyper-focus, cannot “unfocus,” and may become trapped in spirals of fear and doubt.4. Real Examples of Intrusive ThoughtsThe conversation includes an honest discussion of:Violent intrusive thoughtsHealth anxietyFear-based logic loopsWhy intrusive thoughts do NOT reflect a person’s character ep7OCDAudioPodcastA major theme emerges: People without OCD can let thoughts go. People with OCD feel they must solve them.5. Chandler’s Breaking PointIsolationNo social support initiallyMental spiralingRealizing anxiety was dominating his lifeEventually he recognized something was wrong — a powerful turning point.6. The Path to RecoveryChandler explains three essential tools:a. Therapy (ERP Therapy)Exposure Response Prevention — intentionally facing triggers Examples discussed:Touching something dirty and not washing handsFacing fears without performing compulsions“Poking the bear” in a safe therapeutic settingb. MedicationNot a cure — but a powerful tool to loosen OCD’s grip.c. Community & Not Doing It AloneThe biggest lie in mental health struggles? “You are alone.”7. Theology, Scripture & the Battle of the MindThe podcast beautifully ties mental health to biblical truth:2 Corinthians 10:5 — taking thoughts captivePhilippians 4:6-7 — pouring out anxiety to GodJesus in Gethsemane — embracing discomfort, not avoiding itElijah’s despair — God reminding him he was not alonePaul’s sufferings as a teaching tool for othersChandler explains how his theological wrestling actually deepened his well and now allows him to help others.8. Practical Wisdom for ListenersDon’t do mental battles aloneTherapy is not weaknessMedication is not failureCommunity mattersThoughts are not sinsBeing uncomfortable doesn’t mean you’re unsafeGod can redeem even your struggles9. Ending EncouragementDoug reminds listeners:“You can't mess it up bad enough that God can't use it.”Your story may be the very thing that sets someone else free.
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    1 h y 23 m
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