A little over a week ago, I spoke with Kevin McKernan about the paper he co-authored with Jessica Rose and David Speicher, looking at DNA contamination, including SV40 promoter-enhancer sequences, in the Pfizer and Moderna Covid vaccines. In that episode, I asked Kevin whether the paper is enough to demonstrate fraud on the part of the vaccine manufacturers. This is important, because if fraud can be shown, these companies lose their protection from legal liability.

In this episode, I speak with Dr. Jessica Rose about the paper. She explains what is needed to prove fraud, and why that is challenging, but also explains why there is a strong case for it. We also talk about the corrupt nature of the justice system, her own calculation of VAERS underreporting, and the preprint by Kevin McKernan that had just come out, showing "Hyperstimulatory N⁶-methyladenine (m6A) in residual SV40 plasmid DNA in mRNA vaccines"—and possibly more evidence of fraud.

We also talk a little about the meaning of life, and Jessica's cat shows up near the end.

Again, the paper is here.

Jessica's lay-person write-up of the paper is here.

You can find Jessica on Substack, and on X.

I spoke with Jessica back in May, about self-amplifying RNA.

And my episode with Kevin, about the DNA contamination, is here.

You've probably heard about the paper by David Speicher, Kevin McKernan and Jessica Rose, on the DNA contamination in the Pfizer and Moderna Covid-19 vaccines. In this episode, I speak with Kevin McKernan about the paper, including the legal implications: Does it demonstrate fraud on the part of the manufacturers? It's kind of a big deal if it does, because that would void their liability protection provided by the PREP Act.

...which is why the paper is coming under serious attack. We talk about that too.

I also ask Kevin if he thinks we are witnessing the collapse of "fiat science." And he's got a lot to say about that—including some practical ideas for building parallel systems for research and publication.

I've spoken with Kevin about this in previous episodes, which you can find here, here, and here.

You can read the paper here—I recommend downloading it, just in case.

And co-author Jessica Rose did a great lay-person translation, which you can find here.

Kevin's Substack—where he goes into more detail on the "PubSmear" attack—is here, and you can also find him on X.

In this episode, I speak with my friend Angela Sheehan, about her newly launched Ark of Wellness retreat center.

Angela was one of the first to question what hospitals were doing to patients under the Covid-19 protocols. She talks about that experience, and about her journey since leaving that job.

We also talk about the new wellness retreat center she has just opened up in Kentucky, the Ark of Wellness. The Ark will be holding its first retreat later this month, from June 26-29th.

The Ark of Wellness can be found here.

Angela can be reached at ASheehan11ATicloudDOTcare.