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🔥 One of the most powerful figures in boxing joins the show. In this episode, I sit down with Frank Smith, CEO of Matchroom Boxing, to pull back the curtain on what REALLY goes into making the biggest fights in the world. From working with Eddie Hearn to promoting global superstars like Anthony Joshua, Frank shares what life is actually like behind the scenes in boxing — the pressure, the negotiations, and the nonstop grind of running one of the biggest promotion companies in the sport. We get into everything:
* What a fight week REALLY looks like
* The business side of boxing nobody sees
* Why boxing isn’t “broken” (despite what people say)
* Dana White vs boxing and the future of the sport
* The biggest stars in boxing today
* Dream fights that STILL need to happen
* And the reality of dealing with fighters, egos, and high-stakes negotiations
We also talk about legends like Canelo Álvarez, Terence Crawford, and the rise of names like Jake Paul — and how the sport is evolving in the modern era. This is one of the most honest, behind-the-scenes conversations you’ll hear about boxing today. 🎙️ If you’re a fan of boxing, business, or what it takes to operate at the highest level — this episode is for you
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**0:00** Intro + Frank Smith joins the show
**0:45** Terence Crawford story + relationship
**2:00** Behind-the-scenes of boxing events
**3:15** What a promoter actually does (fight week)
**5:00** Running 40+ shows a year worldwide
**7:00** Most stressful part of boxing business
**8:30** Journey: 15 years old → CEO of Matchroom Boxing
**10:30** Boxing is an ego-driven sport
**12:00** Handling losses + tough moments
**13:30** Conor Benn situation (business vs personal)
**15:30** Do promoters actually care about fighters?
**17:30** Don Rico tequila + business mindset
**18:45** Is boxing “broken”?
**20:30** DAZN + global growth
**22:30** Dana White vs boxing
**24:30** UFC vs boxing business model
🔥 **26:30** Who is the BIGGEST star in boxing?
* Canelo Álvarez
* Anthony Joshua
* Jake Paul
**29:00** Social media impact on boxing
**31:00** Jake Paul’s real influence
**33:00** Most underrated fighter (Pat Brown)
🔥 **34:30** Dream fights (Joshua vs Fury, Boots vs Ortiz)
**36:30** Why big fights take so long
**38:00** Errol Spence Jr. vs Terence Crawford
**39:30** Toughest negotiations in boxing
**41:00** David Higgins story
**42:30** Legendary promoters
* Bob Arum
* Don King
**43:45** Best boxing cities + Phoenix
**44:30** Amari Jones future
**45:15** Final question from Terence Crawford
**46:00** Outro