Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orent focus on the escalating hostility towards Dr. Anthony Fauci, spurred by political rhetoric and the divisive stances of certain doctors advocating for herd immunity. They explore the history of Fauci's comments on masks, the critiques from the authors of the Great Barrington Declaration, and the broader implications of these conflicts for public health. The episode also touches on the parallels drawn between current public health debates and historical examples of persecuted scientists, emphasizing the detrimental impact of misinformation and personal attacks on public health efforts.

1. Great Barrington Declaration - Website

2. Newsweek Articles - Various critical op-eds on Dr. Fauci by Martin Kulldorff and Jay Bhattacharya

3. Science-Based Medicine - "The Road to Hitler is Paved with Masks and Vaccines" by Jonathan Howard

4. Wikipedia - Information on Dr. Anthony Fauci and the Great Barrington Declaration

5. Reason Magazine - Video titled "Stop Trusting Public Health" featuring Vinay Prasad

6. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) - COVID-19 Information

7. National Institutes of Health (NIH) - Profile of Dr. Anthony Fauci

8. Twitter - Official profiles of Dr. Martin Kulldorff, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, and Dr. Vinay Prasad

9. Books - "The Great Influenza" by John M. Barry, for historical context on pandemics and public health

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Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orent dive into the pro-infection movement that supports infecting unvaccinated children to achieve herd immunity. They discuss the recent conviction of Trump and the public's reaction, highlighting the parallels between political and medical misinformation.

The episode critically examines statements made by figures like Dr. Scott Atlas and Dr. Vinay Prasad, pointing out their inconsistencies and the potential harm of their advocacy. The hosts stress the importance of relying on scientific evidence and the dangers posed by spreading misleading information.

1. CDC COVID-19 Information: CDC

2. World Health Organization (WHO) COVID-19 Updates: WHO

3. Johns Hopkins University COVID-19 Tracker: Johns Hopkins

4. Science-Based Medicine Articles: Science-Based Medicine

5. FDA COVID-19 Vaccine Information: FDA

6. Dr. Scott Atlas Interview with Tucker Carlson: Tucker Carlson Interview

7. Vinay Prasad's Articles on COVID-19: Vinay Prasad

8. ZDoggMD YouTube Channel: ZDoggMD

9. Dr. John Ioannidis's Research: John Ioannidis

10. National Institute of Health (NIH) COVID-19 Resources: NIH

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Dr. Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orent tackle the contentious issue of school closures during the COVID-19 pandemic. They explore the narrative that school closures were merely a choice influenced by cautious politicians and unions, contrasting it with the reality that the virus itself forced many schools to shut down. The hosts discuss the devastating effects on students, teachers, and families, highlighting cases of illness, death, and the rise in COVID orphans.

They also criticize certain medical professionals for advocating mass infection strategies and collaborating with child labor proponents. The episode aims to debunk pandemic revisionism and emphasize the real costs of the pandemic on education and public health.

Resources

1. "COVID has left thousands of U.S. children orphans. Few states are addressing the crisis," The Guardian, 2023.

2. "New York City students are missing school in record numbers," The New York Times, 2021.

3. "Child COVID deaths more than doubled in Florida as kids returned to the classroom," Politico, 2021.

4. "Teen Suicide Plummeted During COVID-19 School Closures, New Study Finds," Forbes, 2023.

5. "Let the Kids Work," Jeffrey Tucker, 2016.

6. "Was Closing Schools an Obvious and Colossal Mistake?" Science-Based Medicine, 2022.

7. "We Want Them Infected: The Realities of COVID-19 School Policies," We Want Them Infected Podcast, 2024.

8. "The case against COVID tests for the young and healthy," Jay Bhattacharya and Martin Kulldorf, 2020.

9. "Should we let children catch Omicron?" Vinay Prasad, 2022.

10. "Leak Brownstone Institute Emails Reveal Support for Child Labor and Underage Smoking," Walker Bragman, 2022.

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• Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA): Studies on COVID-19 vaccination and cardiac health.
• CDC Reports: Data on vaccine-induced myocarditis.
• Science Based Medicine: Articles analyzing medical claims and COVID-19.
• Medical Literature: Research papers on COVID-19 induced cardiac problems and vaccine side effects.
• Social Media and Public Statements: Analyses of tweets and public communications from Drs. Prasad and Mandrola.

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The views and opinions expressed by the speakers, hosts, and guests on the podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the creators, producers, or distributors. The information provided in this podcast should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical, scientific, or legal advice. Listeners and readers are encouraged to consult with relevant experts and authorities for specific guidance and information.

The creators of the podcast and book have made reasonable efforts to ensure that the information provided is accurate and up to date. However, as the field of medical science and the understanding of the COVID-19 pandemic continue to evolve, there may be new developments and insights that are not covered in this content.

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Dr. Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orent explore the concerns around vaccine myocarditis in children, emphasizing the rarity and mild nature of this side effect in the context of broader COVID-19 impacts.

They provide a detailed analysis of the incidence and severity of COVID-19 among different age groups, underlining the disproportionate effects on black and Hispanic children.

The hosts critically examine the statistical representation of COVID-related deaths and hospitalizations, shedding light on underestimation and overestimation issues. By comparing the effects of the disease and the side effects of the vaccine, they argue for the importance of vaccination, supported by numerous studies indicating lower risks of severe outcomes from vaccination compared to infection.

The episode serves as an informative session on making informed health decisions based on scientific evidence.

• CDC Reports and Investigations: Examination of COVID death certificates and hospitalization rates during the pandemic.
  
• "Real World Analysis: COVID-19 vaccine is strongly effective for children and adolescents during Delta and Omicron": Published study from the University of Pennsylvania, highlighting vaccine effectiveness.
  
• "IL-1RA antibodies in myocarditis after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination": Study from the New England Journal of Medicine, focusing on diagnostic criteria and outcomes
  
• "Medical Conservatives: a high rate of COVID myocarditis is 'good news'; a low rate of vaccine myocarditis is 'deeply concerning'": Article by Jonathan Howard on science-based medicine, addressing misconceptions and providing extensive references on the topic.
  
• American Heart Association and American Academy of Pediatrics Statements: Official responses to the vaccine myocarditis data, emphasizing its rarity and mild impact compared to COVID-19.
  

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This episode of "We Want Them Infected" features a critical examination of the role and challenges of randomized controlled trials (RCTs) in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic. Hosts Dr. Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orange discuss how the pandemic has tested the limits of RCTs, which are often considered the gold standard in medical research. They address the ethical concerns that arise when implementing RCTs during a crisis, such as the risk to participants and the feasibility of obtaining informed consent under emergency conditions.

Jonathan shares his experience participating in an RCT for the AstraZeneca vaccine, highlighting both the personal commitment involved and the broader implications of such trials. The conversation also touches on the practical challenges faced by medical teams during the pandemic, including resource limitations and the psychological toll on healthcare workers.

The hosts critique the weaponization of RCT rhetoric to undermine public health measures, discussing specific cases where RCTs were demanded as the only valid proof of effectiveness, despite the urgent need for timely action. They emphasize the importance of balancing scientific rigor with ethical responsibility and practicality, advocating for adaptive research methods that can respond to the dynamic nature of a global health emergency.

1. Journal Articles on RCTs - Research papers that discuss the methodology, outcomes, and ethical considerations of randomized controlled trials.

2. COVID-19 Studies - A collection of published studies specifically related to COVID-19 treatments and vaccine trials.

3. Ethics in Medical Research - Books and articles that explore ethical dilemmas in conducting medical research during pandemics.

4. History of RCTs - Publications detailing the development and evolution of randomized controlled trials in medical science.

5. Public Health Policy During Pandemics - Resources that examine the intersection of public health policy, research methodology, and crisis management.

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The views and opinions expressed by the speakers, hosts, and guests on the podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the creators, producers, or distributors. The information provided in this podcast should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical, scientific, or legal advice. Listeners and readers are encouraged to consult with relevant experts and authorities for specific guidance and information.

The creators of the podcast and book have made reasonable efforts to ensure that the information provided is accurate and up to date. However, as the field of medical science and the understanding of the COVID-19 pandemic continue to evolve, there may be new developments and insights that are not covered in this content.

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Listeners and readers are urged to use their judgment and conduct their own research when interpreting the information presented in the "We Want Them Infected" podcast and book. It is essential to stay informed about the latest updates, guidelines, and recommendations related to COVID-19 and vaccination from reputable sources, such as government health agencies and medical professionals.

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