Christian Limon is the former Chief Growth Officer at Wish, which was the top spending advertiser on Google and Facebook. He was also the Chief Growth Officer at Tubi and Gemini. Throughout his career, Christian has achieved five exits and $28 billion in IPO and M&A proceeds. He has launched 20 apps and led 33 more apps on growth and monetization.

Eric Seufert is the General Partner at Heracles Capital, a pre-seed venture capital fund focused on the mobile technology ecosystem. After beginning his career at Skype, he held a marketing leadership role at Rovio, where he launched Angry Birds 2. Eric also founded Agamemnon, a mobile marketing analytics startup acquired in 2017. He is the author of Freemium Economics and manages Mobile Dev Memo, a blog on mobile advertising and monetization.

Today’s marketers face a challenging paradox: the more data they have, the harder it is to identify what's valuable. Between conflicting attribution reports, algorithm-driven campaign shifts, and pressure to scale fast, many teams optimize for metrics that don't move the needle. How can growth leaders cut through the noise to build scalable and realistic strategies?

Seasoned mobile growth strategist Christian Limon emphasizes the need for broad, strategic creative testing that breaks out of traditional methods like UGC. He recommends marketers tap into unconventional sources and avoid over-controlling creative input. Leading economic and digital marketing strategist Eric Seufert urges brands to prioritize commercial outcomes like profit and ROAS rather than exclusive platform metrics. Marketers can also use AI to enhance workflows and generate ideas for optimizing LTV.

Join William Harris in today’s episode of the Up Arrow Podcast as he chats with Christian Limon, growth strategist, and Eric Seufert, General Partner at Heracles Capital, about optimizing growth marketing. Together, they discuss how to identify meaningful marketing metrics, how to build systematic, creative-first campaigns, and the dangers of over-diversifying channels.

Jenica Oliver is the Founder and Fractional CMO at Blueprint Marketing Group, a certified women- and minority-owned marketing consultancy helping CPG brands scale through omnichannel expansion. With over 20 years of marketing experience, she has held leadership roles at companies like Yum! Brands, Mission Foods, and Borden Dairy Company. As an advocate for small- and minority-owned businesses, Jenica serves on several boards, including the Women’s Business Council and the Minority Supplier Development Council’s Minority Business Enterprise Input Committee (MBEIC).

Building a high-performing marketing team can be the silent killer — or the secret weapon — for growing e-commerce and CPG brands. Many companies hit a plateau — not because of weak products or poor performance — but because their scrappy, early-stage team can’t support long-term scalability. How do you know when it’s time to restructure, and how can you do it without breaking your budget?

As a seasoned marketing executive, Jenica Oliver has developed a framework for scaling teams strategically. She stresses the importance of building for where you want to go — not where you are today — and recommends leveraging fractional roles, agency partnerships, and diverse skill sets to bridge capability gaps. When balancing innovation with daily operations, brands should identify the team members best suited for creative, forward-thinking projects versus those who excel in managing existing processes. By aligning roles with core strengths and emerging capabilities, companies can unlock surprising talent and avoid frequent restructures.

Join William Harris in the latest episode of the Up Arrow Podcast as he interviews Jenica Oliver, the Founder and Fractional CMO at Blueprint Marketing Group, about restructuring teams to unlock growth in the DTC and CPG space. Jenica explains how to gather authentic, actionable consumer insights, the impact of misaligned team structures on company performance, and the challenges brands face when shifting from DTC to retail.

Brieane Olson is the CEO of PacSun, where she has worked for 17 years. With over two decades of experience in the retail industry, she spearheaded PacSun’s collaborations with cultural figures like Kanye West and Kendall and Kylie Jenner. Brieane is also a board member at Women in Retail Leadership, Shoptalk, and Design Thinking for UC schools.

Fashion brands face the ongoing challenge of remaining relevant in youth culture. With shifting values, rapid trend cycles, and a demand for authenticity, many businesses struggle to connect with Gen Z and Gen Alpha in meaningful ways. How can brands stay ahead while building long-term loyalty with a constantly evolving consumer?

Fashion, youth culture, and retail leadership expert Brieane Olson has transformed a leading youth fashion brand into a cultural movement by embracing innovation, co-creation, and purpose-driven leadership. She emphasizes balancing bold innovation risks with data-informed decisions, like investing in new technology early on while building long-term partnerships with influencers to drive trust and engagement. By leveraging social listening through platforms like TikTok and Discord, building a community through co-creation, and ensuring each initiative aligns with a clear, resonant mission, brands can build loyalty with younger generations.

Tune in to this episode of the Up Arrow Podcast as William Harris welcomes Brieane Olson, the CEO of PacSun, to discuss staying culturally relevant in the fast-paced realm of youth fashion. Brieane talks about navigating brand evolutions, the role of technology in the future of retail, and lessons and tips for unlocking the next stage of brand growth.