In this compact midweek episode, Uncle Marv opens by explaining his upcoming client office move in Tampa, which involves coordinating with cable providers, moving copiers, handling door access systems, and managing ISP cutover with limited preparation time.

He then covers significant industry news from the recent Kaseya Connect 2025 conference, including the release of Kaseya 365 Ops platform, a new SIEM solution, and notably, free Datto backup hardware with three-year commitments. Additional news highlights ESET's integration with Kaseya VSA X, Huntress's enhanced identity threat protection that has already protected over 1.8 million identities, and Synchro's new XMM platform that consolidates RMM, PSA, and Microsoft 365 management.

The episode's main focus is a candid exploration of why IT business "isn't supposed to be easy," illustrated through three recent conversations. Uncle Marv recounts discussions with a junior MSP owner expecting to immediately charge premium rates without building value, an industry veteran struggling to adapt to cloud-based solutions and remote work realities, and a larger MSP facing inventory and distribution challenges. Throughout these stories, Uncle Marv emphasizes that different business stages bring different problems, and there are no magical solutions or easy buttons in IT service delivery.

The show concludes with humorous Florida news stories about a man attempting a break-in while completely naked and a woman arrested for selling human bones through her curiosity shop.

Companies, Products, and Books Mentioned:

• Kaseya, kaseya.com
• Datto, datto.com
• ESET, eset.com
• Huntress, huntress.com
• Syncro: https://syncromsp.com/
• TD SYNNEX, tdsynnex.com
• Ingram Micro, ingrammicro.com
• D&H, dandh.com
• Giant Rocket Ship, giantrocketship.com
• NSITSP (National Society of IT Service Providers), nsitsp.org

Florida Man:

• Naked Florida Man Caught Breaking into Woman's Home: https://tinyurl.com/26yrtbeb
• Florida Woman Arrested for Selling Human Bones: https://tinyurl.com/523ck5ny

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Uncle Marv sits down with Steve Kazan, founder and CEO of Inner Onion and current president of NSITSP. Steve shares his unique perspective on helping international tech companies break into the U.S. market and offers a wealth of wisdom for managed service providers (MSPs) looking to stand out and grow. Drawing on two decades of experience across sectors like cybersecurity, SaaS, AI, and IoT, Steve discusses the importance of strategic planning, building trust, and adapting to the fast-paced world of technology.

Listeners will hear Steve’s take on why so many international companies struggle to gain traction in the U.S.-and what separates the winners from those who fade away. He stresses the need for thorough planning, strong branding, and understanding U.S. business culture, especially for newcomers. The conversation also highlights the critical role of relationships, the challenges of staff turnover, and why a long-term mindset is essential for both vendors and MSPs.

Steve also opens up about his work with NSITSP, the push for greater professionalism in the IT industry, and the urgent issues facing MSPs, including state tax threats and cybersecurity funding cuts. He encourages MSPs to adopt codes of ethics, get involved in advocacy, and leverage the power of community to raise the bar for the entire industry.

List of Companies, Products, and Books Mentioned

• Inner Onion LLC: https://www.inneronion.com/
• NSITSP (National Society of IT Service Providers): https://nsitsp.org/
• CISA (Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency): https://www.cisa.gov/

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Keith Nelson reveals how a relentless focus on customer service and measurable business outcomes has powered his 26-year streak of zero downtime at Vistem Solutions. His passion for advocacy—both for special needs communities and for MSPs navigating new regulations—offers listeners a blueprint for building resilient, high-impact IT businesses. This episode is packed with practical wisdom for anyone looking to stand out in the crowded MSP landscape.

Keith Nelson’s IT Journey and Vistem Solutions: Keith shares how he built Vistem Solutions into a leading MSP, supporting critical infrastructure like the LA/Long Beach shipping port with 26 years of uninterrupted service. He explains the importance of aligning technology with business outcomes and how this approach drives client loyalty.

Customer Service as a Differentiator: Keith argues that technical skills are secondary to customer service in the MSP space. He prefers hiring people with strong interpersonal skills and training them on technical aspects, believing that relationships and service quality are the real keys to success.

Special Needs Advocacy and Community Impact: Drawing from personal experience as a parent and coach, Keith describes his work in special needs advocacy, including founding sports programs and workforce initiatives. He connects these efforts to broader business values like dignity, inclusion, and measurable results.

Legislation, Compliance, and the Role of NSITSP: Keith discusses the inevitability of regulation in the IT industry and stresses the importance of MSPs having a seat at the table. He shares his experiences advising on policy, the dangers of over-legislation, and practical steps for MSPs to get involved locally.

Avoiding Commoditization in IT Services: Keith warns against the “race to the bottom” in pricing and commoditization. He encourages MSPs to focus on value, relationships, and unique expertise to avoid being squeezed out by larger competitors.

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Time-Stamped Chapters (TEST)

• 0:11 – Introduction & Guest Welcome: Keith Nelson of Vistam Solutions
• 1:28 – Vistam Solutions: Automation & Port Projects
• 2:04 – 26 Years of 100% Uptime at LA/Long Beach Ports
• 3:08 – Keith’s Background: Caltech, Oracle, and Business Alignment
• 4:39 – Becoming an MSP: From Big Projects to Sticky Clients
• 6:02 – East vs. West Coast Mindset & Blue Collar Appreciation
• 7:34 – Special Needs Advocacy & Coaching Champions
• 10:11 – Balancing Family, Business, and Community
• 11:26 – Customer Service: The Key to MSP Growth
• 12:27 – NSITSP, Legislation, and Compliance Challenges
• 15:44 – Raising Professionalism & Training in IT
• 17:04 – Avoiding Commoditization in the MSP Industry
• 18:32 – NSITSP’s Legislative Work & Industry Representation
• 19:36 – How MSPs Can Get Involved Locally
• 22:01 – Closing Thoughts & How to Connect with Keith Nelson

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This week, Uncle Marv catches up with Lynn Thames of Thames Consulting Group, who returns to the podcast after several years away—and a lot has changed. Lynn opens up about her journey from working solo out of her home to running a thriving boutique MSP with an office and a trusted employee. She shares the story of how she found the perfect team member (who started with zero IT background but tons of curiosity and hands-on skills), and how that hire transformed her work-life balance.

Lynn shares why she intentionally stays small, focusing on clients with five users or less and providing highly personalized service. She explains how this approach fills a gap left by larger MSPs and allows her to build lasting relationships. Lynn describes her process for finding and mentoring her first employee, highlighting the value of aptitude and attitude over formal IT training. This hire has freed up her time and brought new skills and perspectives to the business.

Marv and Lynn discuss the unpredictable nature of office relocations, from missing cubicles to unplanned wiring work, and share tips for avoiding last-minute disasters. Instead of rigid bundles, Lynn tailors her offerings to each client’s needs, making IT support accessible and affordable for very small businesses.

With a reliable employee, Lynn can finally take real vacations and enjoy more flexibility—something she couldn’t do as a solo operator. Lynn talks about her preference for online peer groups over frequent conference travel, and how meaningful connections can be made both virtually and in person.

The episode wraps with entertaining “Florida Man” tales and some Philly sports banter, keeping things fun and relatable.

Companies, Products, and Books Mentioned (with URLs):

• Thames Consulting Group: https://thamescomputerconsulting.com/
• ASCII Edge / ASCII Cup (ASCII Group): https://events.ascii.com/
• Carl Hiaasen (Author): https://carlhiaasen.com/
• Florida Man Arrested with Wallet Full of Cocaine at Magic Kingdom: https://tinyurl.com/3umwcja7
• Barefoot Florida Man Wrangles 7-Foot Alligator with Trash Can: https://tinyurl.com/4s4kr47p

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Uncle Marv launches a special three-part series, "Auvik vs Domotz," bringing together two experienced MSP leaders to compare the industry's top network monitoring platforms. Robinson Roca of Helient Technologies shares how Auvik’s intuitive interface, powerful NetFlow analytics, and seamless Autotask integration have transformed his team’s troubleshooting and client transparency. Meanwhile, Darcy Wilson from 365 Technologies highlights Domotz’s standout reverse proxy feature, IT Glue integration, and the ease of rolling out proactive monitoring across multi-site clients.

Both guests emphasize the importance of reducing downtime, empowering junior techs, and delivering worry-free IT to clients. They also discuss the value of vendor support, onboarding simplicity, and how each platform fits into their MSP workflows. The episode wraps up with honest feedback on what could be improved and actionable advice for MSPs evaluating their own network management solutions.

Auvik: Real-World Experience from Helient Technologies: Robinson Roca details how Auvik’s NetFlow, multi-site management, and Autotask integration streamline troubleshooting and empower clients with easy-to-understand dashboards.

Domotz: Insights from 365 Technologies: Darcy Wilson explains how Domotz’s reverse proxy, dynamic documentation with IT Glue, and centralized dashboard make managing distributed networks efficient and secure.

Both MSPs praise the straightforward setup processes, noting how quickly new clients can be onboarded and how junior techs can participate confidently. Real-world examples illustrate how both platforms help MSPs catch issues before they escalate, saving clients’ money and boosting satisfaction.

The conversation covers how integrations (Auvik with Autotask, Domotz with IT Glue) automate ticketing and documentation, freeing up valuable technician time. Each guest shares one area for improvement: Auvik’s syslog-based alerting and Domotz’s desire for a more unified multi-site dashboard.

Both MSPs highlight the responsive support and partnership mentality of Auvik and Domotz, which makes a difference in their day-to-day operations.

Companies, Products, and Books Mentioned:

• Sign up for Auvik: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/auvik
• Auvik Website: https://www.auvik.com
• Sign up for Domotz: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/domotz
• Domotz Website: https://www.domotz.com
• Helient Technologies Website: https://www.heliant.com
• 365 Technologies Website: https://365tech.ca

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Uncle Marv sits down with Joan Posivy—author, entrepreneur, and host of The Side Hustle Hero podcast—to unpack the real-world lessons behind building a successful side hustle. Joan’s story is anything but ordinary: from becoming Canada’s youngest bank manager to running a deli, self-storage business, and now a top-rated podcast, her journey is filled with pivots, persistence, and practical wisdom.

Joan shares why most people never start their dream business (hint: it’s all in your head), and why the best advice she’s heard from hundreds of guests is simply to “just start.” She breaks down the importance of understanding your market, managing your priorities, and building habits that actually move the needle. Listeners will hear about the power of accountability partners, the need for patience in the face of slow results, and the financial must-dos that keep your side hustle afloat.

The episode is packed with memorable stories—from a $500 cashew dip startup that grew to $6 million, to creative side hustles like party tent rentals and even luxury port-a-potties. Joan’s honest insights and practical tips will inspire you to take action, whether you’re just starting out or looking to level up your business.

Companies, Products, and Books Mentioned (with URLs):

• Side Hustle Hero Podcast: https://www.sidehustlehero.com
• The Way Success Works (Book by Joan Posivy): https://www.joanposivy.com/the-way-success-works-book.html

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Andy Higgins, founder of IM Collaboration, shares his journey from early days in IT in England, Switzerland, and the US, to building a successful MSP business.

He discusses his experience with major migrations (like Continental Tires), representing Switzerland at the ITU, and the importance of industry standards.

Andy explains why he joined the National Society of IT Service Providers (NSITSP), the value of professionalism, and the need for community-driven best practices.

The conversation covers differences in IT culture between Europe and the US, the evolution of business practices for MSPs, and actionable advice for IT professionals looking to grow and professionalize their businesses.

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• NSITSP (National Society of IT Service Providers): https://www.nsitsp.org
• ASCII Group: https://www.ascii.com/
• ChannelPro Network: https://www.channelpronetwork.com/

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Uncle Marv sits down with Paul Daigle, founder of the Biz Advisory Board and a 30-year industry expert, for a candid conversation about what it takes to build, grow, and ultimately sell a successful MSP. Paul shares his journey from MSP owner to M&A advisor, revealing the pitfalls that keep many IT business owners from reaching their full potential. They explore why so many MSPs undervalue their businesses and how tools like the MSP Business Evaluator and Accelerator can give owners a clear roadmap to higher profits and better exit opportunities.

The episode dives into the eight key operational focus areas that drive MSP growth, from sales training to HR and legal, and explains how balancing these areas is critical for scaling up. Paul also discusses the importance of peer benchmarking, the impact of recurring revenue, and how specialization can boost your business’s value. Listeners will walk away with practical tips on maximizing margins, leveraging vendor relationships, and preparing for private equity interest or a future sale.

Paul offers exclusive discount codes for listeners to access his business evaluation tools, making it easier than ever to get a real snapshot of your MSP’s value and actionable steps to improve it. Whether you’re just starting out or eyeing your exit, this episode is packed with real advice you can use right now.

• MSP Business Evaluator: Use code MARVIN73 to receive 73% off, reducing the price from $295.00 to $79.00—a savings of $216.00.
• MSP Business Accelerator (includes the Evaluator): Use code MARVIN15 to receive 15% off. The Accelerator includes everything in the Evaluator plus a customized blueprint and roadmap designed to accelerate your MSP's growth across all 8 operational focus areas.

Companies, Products, and Books Mentioned (with URLs):

• Biz Advisory Board (MSP Business Evaluator & Accelerator): https://bizadvisoryboard.com/business-evaluator/
• Jay McBain (Industry Analyst, Canalys): https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/guests/jay-mcbain/

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