What if God is inviting us into something far bigger than we imagined?

In this end-of-year conversation, hosts Robby Angle and Benjamin Crawshaw look back on a transformative season for Trueface and share the unexpected ways God has redirected our steps. We reflect on 30 years of ministry, the beauty of generational trust from our founders, and the launch of The Path—a fresh articulation of grace designed to help all of us experience Jesus in a more deeply relational way.

We also open up about the “holy interruption” that shifted our plans for 2025 and beyond. Through ambassador trainings, pastor gatherings, and surprising moments of clarity, we sensed God calling us to serve the capital-C Church with greater boldness—dreaming about equipping 10,000 churches with a thriving culture of discipleship.

In this family-style episode, we share how God is shaping our vision, what we’re learning about dependence and courage, where your partnership matters most, and why we’re more hopeful than ever about what God is doing in His Church.

If you’re part of the Trueface tribe—whether you pray, give, serve, or simply listen—this one is for you. Merry Christmas, and we can’t wait for what’s ahead.

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What if we’ve been measuring spiritual growth by all the wrong metrics?

In this episode, we sit down with our friend and teammate Benjamin Crawshaw to explore why so many of us feel stuck or discouraged in our discipleship journey—and why churches often feel the same. Together, we unpack the heart of Trueface’s “outcomes of spiritual growth” framework and ask the deeper questions: What are we actually aiming for? How do we know if discipleship is working? And why does love—not knowledge, effort, or productivity—always reveal true maturity?

We reflect on our own stories, the pastors we’ve met, and the countless conversations that led us to a simple but disruptive conviction: discipleship is the process of growing in love of God and others. From understanding our view of God, to maturing in authentic relationships, to overflowing love into the world—this episode invites us to breathe, slow down, and step into the long, patient work of becoming whole disciples.

If you’ve ever felt behind, confused, or weighed down by the pressure to “get discipleship right,” this conversation will give you hope, clarity, and a fresh vision of the life Jesus makes possible.

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What happens when decades of leadership, loss, grace, and growth collide into a life lived fully alive?

In this episode, we sit down with our friend Wayne Williams—entrepreneur, rancher, long-time Trueface partner, and a man who has walked with Jesus through both mountaintops and valleys.

We explore Wayne’s journey from leading a global company through the dot-com boom and bust, to discovering a deeper identity shaped not by performance but by grace. We talk about how mentors changed the trajectory of his faith, why “protection teams” are essential for spiritual formation, and what it really looks like to build friendships rooted in vulnerability.

Together, we unpack wisdom for every season—launching into adulthood, navigating marriage, raising kids, stewarding work, and learning to let go with trust. Wayne’s honest reflections invite us to slow down, listen, and live with the kind of intentionality that forms us into who God says we are.

If you’re hungry for clarity, encouragement, and a practical vision for a grace-centered life, this conversation will feel like sitting with a trusted guide who’s a few steps ahead of us on the trail.

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