In this Side Salad, Kev explores one of life’s simplest but most overlooked truths — happy people aren’t mean. From the co-worker with the cold shoulder to the stranger who snaps at you in line, mean behavior often says more about someone’s unhappiness than it does about you.

Through real-life reflections and grounded wisdom, Kev unpacks how joy and cruelty can’t coexist — they’re oil and water. So the next time someone tries to chip away at your good day, remember: their meanness isn’t your mirror. It’s a reflection of how heavy their own heart really is.

In this episode of The Salad Bowl Podcast, Kev sits down kneecap to kneecap with Chris Thobaben — a husband, father, Marine Corps Officer, business owner, and supply chain consultant — for a powerful, human conversation that peels back the layers of what connects us all.

Chris opens up about his origin story and the winding path that led him to love, fatherhood, and purpose. Together, we explore his family’s journey through adoption, the challenges and beauty of raising both white and Black children under the same roof, and how those experiences have shaped his understanding of leadership, compassion, and humanity.

This conversation dives deep — from the Marine Corps to marriage, adoption to identity, and difference to connection. It’s a reminder that when we slow down and truly listen, we often find that we’re not as different as we think.

🎧 Tune in now to hear an honest, heartfelt, and fulfilling dialogue that sits right at the intersection of love, leadership, and life.

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🥗 The Salad Bowl Podcast — where every story adds flavor to the bigger mix of life.

What can a frozen bird, a cow, and a cat teach us about life? More than you’d think.

In this short but powerful Side Salad, Kev breaks down The Parable of the Bird and the Poo — a story that reminds us not to procrastinate, not to mistake help for harm (or harm for help), and to recognize when it’s best to just stay still and trust the process.

Because sometimes life drops a little bull crap on you — but that doesn’t always mean it’s the end. Sometimes, it’s just the uncomfortable warmth you need to survive your current season.

Tune in for this quick dose of wisdom, humor, and perspective — and remember, not everyone who poops on you is your enemy… and not everyone who digs you out is your friend.

The Salad Bowl Podcast — mixing thoughts, lessons, and laughter into one honest conversation.