Chestly Lunday grew up in ministry. His dad pioneered churches before anyone called it church planting. At 18, Chestly started a youth church in a skating rink—90 kids in six weeks. Then the Negative Nancy's showed up. They told him it wasn't biblical. Couldn't work. Shouldn't be done. He listened. Big mistake. This conversation traces Chestly's journey from military service to dying church turnarounds to discovering something unexpected: digital spaces aren't competing with physical church. They're extending it. You'll hear about section eight housing ministry, young professionals who wouldn't step foot in a building, and Gen Z kids who DM while sitting in the same room. The church is changing. The question isn't whether you like it. The question is whether you'll pay attention.

The hard truth: what's holding back your church is probably between your two ears.

This conversation gets uncomfortable. We talk about why growth stalls, why some pastors waste time with the wrong people, and how to prioritize ruthlessly. Jared's had prophetic words about a large church, but right now he's stuck. The answer isn't working harder—it's working smarter.

We cover the ABC priority system that can restructure your whole week. Why you should never start a house church in your own home. How to use YouTube as a tool to strengthen community, not just advertise. The power of prayer walking when you're actually trying to meet people, not just blessing houses. And why making a big deal out of Easter and Christmas isn't sell-out attractional—it's strategic.

If you're thinking about quitting, listen to this first. Growth happens when you stop doing churchy things that don't matter and start doing the few things that do.

We end with homework: make an action plan. What did the Spirit say to you? What are you going to do about it? How can someone help?

Here's what's broken: Jared can work 60 hours a week, but he's not playing basketball with anyone. And basketball matters in South LA.

This conversation gets practical fast. We dig into why community is the thing that actually makes churches grow—not better preaching, not cooler programs, but people doing life together. Why serving coffee after church was once considered radical. How asking three simple questions in a small group changes everything. And why the horizontal relationships in your church matter more than you think.

We talk about the difference between being busy and being efficient. Between filling your calendar with church stuff and spending time with people who might become the next generation of leaders. Jared's wrestling with how to build real friendships at scale when his church has pockets of community but not enough.

There's a reason people leave through the back door. Usually it's not the sermon. It's that they never connected with anyone.

Jared Hurst flew helicopters in the Marine Corps. Now he pastors in one of the toughest neighborhoods in Los Angeles.

This is a conversation about sacrifice. About what it looks like when someone with serious credentials chooses hard ground over easy opportunity. Jared could have taken a staff position at a big church. Instead, he's in South LA, running between two locations, investing in young men who sometimes disappoint him, and figuring out how to build something that lasts.

We talk about his journey from basketball dreams and aviation to that moment in his car when God's presence overwhelmed him. How nine people got baptized in his living room the first month. Why he took on a second church in Pasadena when his heart was already in South LA. And the tension of serving two congregations while trying to raise leaders in both.

If you're in a hard place right now, this one's for you.

In the third and final part of Ralph Moore’s conversation with Josh Burnett, we dive into the nuts and bolts of Church.Tech. Josh demonstrates how pastors can upload sermons and instantly generate transcripts, summaries, small group questions, YouTube chapters, podcasts, and even children’s ministry curriculum.

The episode also highlights tools that transform sermons into short, shareable video clips, complete with captions, translations, and scheduling across multiple platforms. For bivocational pastors, small churches, and leaders looking to multiply their content without multiplying their workload, these tools are a game changer.

Check out the video version: https://youtu.be/-NjnsiiWWJw?si=vM2nH9AEZM6f9iR8

In part two of Ralph Moore’s conversation with Josh Burnett, the focus shifts to how Church.Tech is reshaping the way pastors and leaders use their time. Josh explains how AI-powered tools can give back the equivalent of four full work weeks every year—freeing leaders to spend less time behind a screen and more time with people.

This episode unpacks the connection between nonprofits and church innovation, explores fundraising strategies that actually work, and highlights how Church.Tech supports sermon preparation, discipleship resources, and social media content. Whether you’re a bivocational pastor, microchurch leader, or simply overwhelmed with ministry tasks, this is a practical look at technology that makes disciple-making more effective.

Check out the video version: https://youtu.be/j1axuSiOCpg?si=m5Bi4bDVC_SM4jVl

In this episode, Ralph Moore sits down with Josh Burnett, founder of Church.Tech, to explore the journey from church planting to pioneering technology that helps pastors reclaim their time. Josh shares his early story of coming to faith, his call to ministry at a young age, and the church-planting work that shaped his vision for holistic community transformation. Out of those experiences, he stepped into the tech world—developing tools that leverage AI to free up pastors for what matters most: people and discipleship.

If you’ve ever wondered how technology could multiply your ministry impact, this conversation will open your eyes.

Check out the video version at: https://youtu.be/CYUhwwbiXpY?si=lKtoeHdv0mbvakuJ

In the final part of their conversation, Ralph Moore and Ryan Delamater reflect on the lessons Ryan has learned through the growth of OCNWTR. Ryan shares how the movement continues to multiply through micro-churches connected to clean water projects, and why generosity, empowerment, and faith-filled risk are central to sustaining it.

They dive into practical insights on developing young leaders, building trust in cross-cultural contexts, and keeping ministry simple enough to reproduce. Ryan also offers encouragement for planters who feel under-resourced, showing how starting small and giving ministry away can unleash exponential impact.

This closing episode ties together the themes of the series, like innovation, suffering, multiplication, and faith, into a hopeful vision for the future of church planting in unlikely places.