What happens to our clients when we’re suddenly not there to care for them? In this powerful and eye-opening episode, Dr. Robyn Miller dives into the difficult but essential topic most therapists avoid: what happens when a therapist dies or becomes incapacitated. With compassion, clarity, and deep professional insight, Dr. Miller reveals the ethical, legal, and emotional chaos that can follow when we don’t have a solid closure plan in place—and how TheraClosure offers a dignified, comprehensive solution. If you’re a mental health professional who’s ever told yourself, “I’ll figure that out later,” this conversation is your wake-up call. It’s not morbid. It’s responsible. And it might be the most important step you take to protect your clients, your legacy, and your loved ones.

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Meet Dr. ​​Robyn Miller

Robyn Miller, Ph.D. is a clinical psychologist practicing in Maryland since 2002, and she is the founder of TheraClosure, LLC, the first psychotherapist professional executor service.

Dr. Miller trained at the Massachusetts Mental Health Center/Harvard Medical School and at the Harvard University Counseling Center. She earned a Ph.D. from the University of Rochester and a B.A. from Tufts University.

Her psychotherapy interests include menopause transitions, eating and mood disorders, and trauma. Dr. Miller writes and trains clinicians on professional wills and the role of the practice executor.

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If you’ve ever poured your heart into writing a blog post only to hear crickets, this episode of the Practice of Therapy Podcast is for you. Natalie Moore breaks down exactly why keyword research is the non-negotiable first step to getting found online—and she does it with a dartboard metaphor you won’t forget. From picking the right phrases (think “EMDR therapist LA” instead of “trauma therapist California”) to building backlinks that actually move the needle, Natalie shares the exact strategies therapists need to compete online—without trying to beat Psychology Today at their own game. Tune in to learn how to create content Google wants to rank.

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Meet Natalie Moore

Natalie is a licensed therapist, speaker, and consultant based in Los Angeles, CA, with over a decade of clinical experience. She runs a successful private practice called Space for Growth Therapy and Coaching, where she sees therapy clients and consults therapists in building their own practices. Natalie has spoken at conferences such as South by Southwest and The Yoga Expo on topics including mental health and holistic wellness. She is regularly featured in Huffington Post and other major media outlets for her expertise on people-pleasing, psychology, and relationships.

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Tune into this episode to explore why therapists must do their own self-work to be truly effective. Jordanne shares why personal growth isn’t optional—it’s essential for providing ethical, insightful, and compassionate care. She discusses how ongoing self-reflection helps therapists navigate complex client dynamics, avoid burnout, and foster deeper therapeutic relationships. Using the powerful analogy, "Would you take a cooking lesson from someone who doesn’t cook?" she emphasizes the importance of therapists engaging in their own healing and development. Whether you're a therapist or someone curious about the inner work of mental health professionals, this episode offers valuable insights into the transformative power of self-awareness.

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Meet Jordanne Sculler

Jordanne Sculler is a New York State Licensed Mental Health Counselor and psychotherapist with a Master’s degree in Mental Health Counseling Psychology from New York University Steinhardt. She brings a holistic approach to therapy, working with adults, couples, and adolescents to develop collaborative and personalized treatment plans tailored to their unique needs and goals.

With a deep commitment to her work, Jordanne views psychotherapy as a relational learning experience—one that fosters emotional and behavioral growth while strengthening the therapeutic bond. She is dedicated to helping clients build long-term coping skills, recognize their resilience, and work toward meaningful change.

Her extensive clinical training encompasses psychodynamic therapy, cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT), and relational work. By integrating these modalities, she provides a dynamic and personalized therapeutic experience. Known for her “tough” yet supportive approach, Jordanne is unafraid to challenge her clients, encouraging them to embrace discomfort as a path to growth within a warm and secure environment.

Jordanne’s passion lies in working with individuals and couples navigating life transitions, relationships, trauma, anxiety, and disordered eating. Through her compassionate and direct style, she empowers her clients to achieve their therapeutic goals and create lasting change.

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In this episode of The Practice of Therapy Podcast, host Gordon Brewer welcomes Whitney Owens, a seasoned group practice owner and consultant, to discuss the critical issue of therapist retention. Whitney shares her insights on why losing a therapist can be costly—not just financially, but in terms of client care, team morale, and overall practice stability. She breaks down practical strategies to create a supportive work environment, improve hiring and onboarding processes, and foster long-term commitment among therapists. Whether you're struggling with turnover or looking to build a thriving team, this episode is packed with actionable advice you won’t want to miss!

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Meet Whitney Owens

Whitney Owens is the owner of Water’s Edge Counseling, a thriving group practice in Savannah, Georgia. When she’s not leading her practice, she enjoys coaching, running, or sipping coffee while reading a good book. She is married to a pastor and is the proud mother of two daughters. Having navigated the challenges of balancing work and family, she continues to learn and grow in both areas.

A graduate of Richmont Graduate University, Whitney received specialized training in both professional counseling and faith integration. Her career spans various clinical settings, including residential treatment, hospital work, and the successful launch of multiple private practices.

Today, Whitney has created a fulfilling lifestyle, working four days a week, picking up her children from school, and running a profitable business. She has found a way to do the work she loves, live out her faith, and enjoy the journey along the way.

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Many therapists pour hours into social media posts, cold outreach, and networking, hoping to attract new clients. But what if there was a more direct path to getting found?

In this episode, Jessica shares how she ditched the endless content grind and unlocked the true power of Google. By optimizing her website and Google Business Profile, she became the first choice for clients searching for therapists in her area—without spending a dime on ads or social media trends.

From SEO strategies that actually work to creating a website that converts visitors into paying clients, Jessica breaks down the essential steps to ensuring potential clients find you—not the therapist down the street.

If you’re tired of chasing clients and ready to let them come to you, this episode is your roadmap. Tune in now and take control of your online presence!

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Meet Jessica Harris

Jessica Harris is an LCSW and business coach for therapists growing a private pay practice.

After building a thriving private pay group practice—where she hired six therapists and consistently attracted 5-10 full-fee clients weekly—Jessica sold her therapy practice to focus solely on empowering other therapists to get cash pay clients.

She now dedicates herself to coaching therapists through her 12-week program, designed to help therapists simplify marketing and fill their caseload with cash pay clients.

Jessica is on a mission to help therapists everywhere create financial abundance and achieve their dream lives while making a meaningful impact in the world.

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Many therapists and psychiatrists dream of running their own private practice—setting their own hours, choosing their clients, and working independently. But what happens when the reality doesn’t match the dream?

In this episode, Dr. Choulet pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to run a successful private practice—especially one that operates on a cash-pay model. Spoiler alert: It’s not just about being a great clinician. If you’re not passionate about networking, marketing, and building your brand, you may struggle to make it work.

Dr. Choulet shares why niching down is a game-changer, how branding can make or break your success, and why investing in your visibility is just as important as your clinical skills. She’s built a thriving practice that serves high-profile clients, from professional athletes to business executives, and she’s here to share her biggest lessons—so you can decide if private practice is the right move for you.

If you’ve ever wondered why some private practices thrive while others barely survive, this episode is for you.

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Meet Dr. Brook Choulet

Dr. Brook Choulet, M.D., The Performance Psychiatrist™, is the founder and CEO of the Choulet Performance Psychiatry®, President of the Maricopa County Medical Society Foundation, and President of the American Board of Sports and Performance Psychiatry, of which she is one of the seven founding members.

With a focus on concierge Performance Psychiatry®, Dr. Choulet guides professionals, athletes, and their families towards unparalleled mental health and performance optimization by offering bespoke mental health care services for both adolescent and adult patients.

She holds a Certificate of Additional Training in Sports Psychiatry from the International Society for Sports Psychiatry (ISSP) and is a preferred provider on the NBPA, NFLPA, USSF, USOPC, and MLBPA's Mental Health Directories. Dr. Choulet's expertise has been pivotal in shaping mental resilience in sports at its highest level, and she worked for two seasons as a Consulting Team Psychiatrist for the NBA Phoenix Suns and WNBA Phoenix Mercury.

Dr. Choulet is a regular contributor to Forbes SportsMoney and is a Forbes Health Advisory Board member who reviews and consults on Forbes Health articles. She also contributes her expertise to the American Psychiatric Association's publications and Psychology Today's Sports & Performance Psychiatry column. She also provides expert advice each month to local Arizona publications, including Paradise Valley City Lifestyle Magazine, Stroll Biltmore, Stroll Desert Mountain, and Stroll Paradise Valley, as part of her commitment to cultivating the mental health and well-being of her local community.

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Grief isn’t just about five stages—it’s messy, personal, and ever-evolving. If you’ve ever felt like you weren’t “grieving the right way” or struggled to make sense of your emotions after loss, this episode is for you. Krista St-Germain joins us to break down the myths about grief and explore what truly helps us heal. From the Dual Process Model to Continuing Bonds, we’re diving deep into the realities of loss, why “moving on” is a harmful misconception, and how we can integrate grief into our lives in meaningful ways. Tune in for a powerful conversation that will change the way you think about grief—and, more importantly, how you support yourself and others through it.

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Meet Krista St-Germain

Krista St-Germain is a Master Certified Life Coach, grief expert, widow, mom and host of The Widowed Mom Podcast. When her husband was killed by a drunk driver in 2016, Krista's life was completely and unexpectedly flipped upside down. After therapy helped her unfurl from the fetal position, Krista discovered Life Coaching, Post Traumatic Growth and learned the tools she needed to move forward and create a future she could get excited about. Now she coaches and teaches other widows so they can love life again, too.

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