Episodios

  • EP79 - Building Belmontscape & the Reality of Immigration and Labor Challenges with Saul Belmontes
    Jul 29 2025

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    On this heartfelt episode of The Plant Movement Podcast, we sit down with Saul Belmontes, the owner of Belmontscapes, a local lawn maintenance and landscaping company in South Florida. Saul’s story is one of faith, sacrifice, and resilience, a journey that began in his father’s nursery and grew into a thriving landscaping business built with determination and heart.
    Saul opens up about his second-generation Mexican American roots, growing up working alongside his family, and how life’s unexpected challenges including losing his plumbing job during Hurricane Irma pushed him to lean on prayer, hard work, and sacrifice to build his dream. Today, Belmontscapes proudly serves Miami-Dade and the Keys, maintaining over 60 residential and commercial clients.

    This episode dives deep into:
    - Saul’s powerful testimony of overcoming financial hardships and setbacks.
    - The realities of immigration and labor challenges in the Green Industry.
    - Why community, collaboration, and faith are more important now than ever.
    - The future of landscaping, rising labor costs, and how professionals must adapt to thrive.

    Saul’s journey is a reminder that success is never linear—behind the polished lawns and social media highlights lies a story of grit, persistence, and belief in God’s plan. His honesty about the struggles of hiring, labor shortages, and industry changes will resonate with every listener who’s been tested but refuses to give up.

    Tune in to hear Saul’s story, the lessons he’s learned, and his message to landscapers: “Sacrifice now, so the harvest can come later.”

    #ThePlantMovementPodcast #Belmontscapes #FaithAndBusiness #LandscapingLife #GreenIndustry #LawnCareCommunity #IndustryTrends #PlantMovement

    Belmontscape Landscaping

    Call: (786) 402-9473
    Follow IG: https://www.instagram.com/bemontscape_


    The Plant Movement Podcast

    Email: eddie@theplantmovementnetwork.com & willie@theplantmovementnetwork.com
    Call: (305) 216-5320
    Web: https://www.theplantmovement.com
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    A's Ornamental Nursery

    WE GROW | WE SOURCE | WE DELIVER
    Call: (305) 216-5320
    Web: https://www.asornamental.com
    Follow Us: IG: https://www.instagram.com/asornamentalnursery

    The Nursery Growers

    Call: 786-522-4942
    Email: info@thenurserygrowers.com
    IG: www.instagram.com/thenurserygrowers
    web: www.thenurserygrowers.com

    Plant Logistics Co.

    (Delivering Landscape Plant Material Throughout the State of Florida)
    Call: (305) 912-3098
    Web: https://www.plantlogisticsco.com
    Follow Us: IG: https://www.instagram.com/plantlogistics





    Directed and Produced by Eddie EVDNT Gonzalez





    Disclaimer: The contents of this podcast/youtube video are for informational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, accounting, or legal advice. I can’t promise that the information shared on my posts is appropriate for you or anyone else. By listening to this podcast/youtube video, you agree to hold me harmless from any ramifications, financial or otherwise, that occur to you as a result of acting on information found in this podcast/youtube video.


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  • EP78 – Building Legacy, Faith & Innovation: Inside Chemical Containers with Sid
    Jul 15 2025

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    On this episode of The Plant Movement Podcast, we dive deep into the story behind one of the most trusted names in ag equipment, Chemical Containers, Inc. Meet Sid, the national sales rep with over 20 years of hands-on experience, who’s been part of the company since he was just 15. More than just a business, Chemical Containers is a faith-driven, family-operated company that’s been serving the industry for nearly 40 years.

    We explore everything from the company’s humble beginnings to its cutting-edge custom sprayers, boom systems, injection pumps, automated tech, and even drone alternatives. Sid shares how the founder, his stepfather, works 50+ hours a week while studying to be a deacon, proof that purpose and passion fuel everything they build.

    Topics Covered:

    Sid’s journey from the fab shop to national sales

    Why quality and longevity set their equipment apart

    Innovations like rate controllers, touchscreen injection pumps, and automated tank mixing

    Behind the scenes of building custom sprayer trucks, Pole Blasters, and boom systems

    The real-life benefits of smart tech like GPS rate control and multi-tank isolation

    How they’re tackling labor challenges and helping growers do more with less

    Bold ideas like track systems for spraying, greenhouse automation carts, and copper-stimulated plant growth

    Honest salesmanship: Why Sid sometimes tells people not to buy

    This episode is packed with industry insight, engineering brilliance, and forward-thinking solutions. If you're a grower, landscaper, or nursery owner thinking about upgrading your spray systems or tackling labor and tech challenges, this is the conversation you need to hear.

    Learn more or connect with Sid at ChemicalContainers.com or just call and ask for Mr. Sid!


    Chemical Containers

    Address: 413 ABC rd, Lake Wales, Florida
    Email: sales@chemicalcontainers.com
    Call: (800) 346-7867
    Web: https://www.chemicalcontainers.com
    Follow IG: https://www.instagram.com/chemicalcontainers



    The Plant Movement Podcast

    Email: eddie@theplantmovementnetwork.com & willie@theplantmovementnetwork.com
    Call: (305) 216-5320
    Web: https://www.theplantmovement.com
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    A's Ornamental Nursery

    WE GROW | WE SOURCE | WE DELIVER
    Call: (305) 216-5320
    Web: https://www.asornamental.com
    Follow Us: IG: https://www.instagram.com/asornamentalnursery

    The Nursery Growers

    Call: 786-522-4942
    Email: info@thenurserygrowers.com
    IG: www.instagram.com/thenurserygrowers
    web: www.thenurserygrowers.com

    Plant Logistics Co.

    (Delivering Landscape Plant Material Throughout the State of Florida)
    Call: (305) 912-3098
    Web: https://www.plantlogisticsco.com
    Follow Us: IG: https://www.instagram.com/plantlogistics





    Directed and Produced by Eddie EVDNT Gonzalez





    Disclaimer: The contents of this podcast/youtube video are for informational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, accounting, or legal advice. I can’t promise that the information shared on my posts is appropriate for you or anyone else. By listening to this podcast/youtube video, you agree to hold me harmless from any ramifications, financial or otherwise, that occur to you as a result of acting on information found in this podcast/youtube video.

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  • EP77 - Lighting the Way — How Ariel Rodriguez Built a Lighting Empire from the Ground Up
    Jul 1 2025

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    On this illuminating episode of The Plant Movement Podcast, we shine a spotlight on Ariel Rodriguez, the founder of Elighting and Worldwide Distributors, a true industry pioneer in outdoor and landscape lighting.
    From cold calls at 17 to designing custom lighting systems for luxury estates and commercial properties, Ariel shares his journey, insights, and battle-tested strategies for thriving in a rapidly evolving industry.
    On this episode, we cover:
    - Ariel’s early days in telemarketing and transition into LED lighting
    - How landscape lighting became an art — and a business serving the top 3% of earners
    - Key differences between commercial and residential lighting
    - Why product quality, warranties, and manufacturer relationships matter
    - Business lessons in credit, cash flow, and reinvesting for long-term success
    - Behind-the-scenes insight into value engineering, custom installations, and working with designers, architects, and GCs
    - The future of lighting — from RGBW customization to Power over Ethernet (PoE) systems
    - How Elighting helps nurseries and facilities slash energy bills and optimize lighting for both function and aesthetics

    Whether you're a landscaper, GC, nursery owner, or aspiring entrepreneur, Ariel drops gems on running a service-first business, building trust with clients, and scaling smart.
    Plus: Learn how lighting can transform your installs, improve property value, and create luxury-level ambiance after dark.
    Ready to light up your business? Ariel’s showroom is open, and he’s inviting anyone hungry to learn or partner to connect.

    Tune in now and get inspired to grow — one beam at a time.

    #ThePlantMovement #LandscapeLighting #BusinessGrowth #Elighting #GreenIndustry #LEDlighting #LightingDesign #OutdoorLiving #PodcastEpisode77


    ELIGHTING

    Show Room: 12130 sw 114th pl, Miami, Florida
    Email: info@elighting.org
    Call: (305) 969-8769
    Web: https://www.elightingindustries.com
    Follow IG: https://www.instagram.com/elightingdesigns



    The Plant Movement Podcast

    Email: eddie@theplantmovementnetwork.com & willie@theplantmovementnetwork.com
    Call: (305) 216-5320
    Web: https://www.theplantmovement.com
    Follow Us: IG: https://www.instagram.com/theplantmovementpodcast


    A's Ornamental Nursery

    WE GROW | WE SOURCE | WE DELIVER
    Call: (305) 216-5320
    Web: https://www.asornamental.com
    Follow Us: IG: https://www.instagram.com/asornamentalnursery

    The Nursery Growers

    Call: 786-522-4942
    Email: info@thenurserygrowers.com
    IG: www.instagram.com/thenurserygrowers
    web: www.thenurserygrowers.com

    Plant Logistics Co.

    (Delivering Landscape Plant Material Throughout the State of Florida)
    Call: (305) 912-3098
    Web: https://www.plantlogisticsco.com
    Follow Us: IG: https://www.instagram.com/plantlogistics





    Directed and Produced by Eddie EVDNT Gonzalez





    Disclaimer: The contents of this podcast/youtube video are for informational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, accounting, or legal advice. I can’t promise that the information shared on my posts is appropriate for you or anyone else. By listening to this podcast/youtube video, you agree to hold me harmless from any ramifications, financial or otherwise, that occur to you as a result of acting on information found in this podcast/youtube video.

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  • EP76 - Faith Over Fear: How Alberti Ortiz Rebuilt His Life Through Landscaping
    Jun 17 2025

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    On this powerful and transparent episode, host Willie Rodriguez sits down with Alberti Ortiz, founder of Boca Landscape Designs, to explore how landscaping became more than just a business — it became a calling. From mowing lawns at age 13 for $4 an hour to becoming a creative visionary in landscape design, Alberti’s story is one of faith, surrender, and transformation.

    Willie, who has been following Alberti’s journey on Instagram, dives deep into how Alberti overcame limiting beliefs, embraced mentorship, and transitioned from cutting 20 lawns a day to designing high-end, purpose-driven outdoor spaces. More than just building landscapes, Alberti is now helping people build from the inside out — emotionally, spiritually, and professionally.

    You’ll hear how Alberti:

    - Faced and overcame fear to launch his business in 2015

    - Pivoted from lawn maintenance to luxury design

    - Uses VIP 3D software to close 90% of his jobs

    - Protects his creative work with contracts and boundaries

    - Finds strength through faith, sobriety, and community

    - Believes in divine connections and helping others grow

    - Builds real relationships in an industry often driven by transaction

    Alberti shares raw moments — from struggles with ego and trust to the turning point where prayer, mentorship, and serving others reshaped his life. His leadership style, rooted in humility and integrity, is reshaping how we define success in the green industry.

    🌴 Plus: Willie gives a shoutout to PlantFinder.com and Betrock’s Essential Guide to Palms — a must-have resource! Come by the office, say hello, and you might leave with a book and a shirt!

    Whether you’re a landscaper, designer, or entrepreneur, this episode reminds us: We walk by faith, not by sight. You’re not alone. There’s purpose in the pain, growth in surrender, and power in connection.



    📲 Connect with Alberti Ortiz:
    Email: sunview_landscapes@hotmail.com
    Call: (954) 918-9991
    Instagram: @boca_landscape_designs
    Website: bocalandscapedesigns.com

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    The Plant Movement Podcast

    Email: eddie@theplantmovementnetwork.com & willie@theplantmovementnetwork.com
    Call: (305) 216-5320
    Web: https://www.theplantmovement.com
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    A's Ornamental Nursery

    WE GROW | WE SOURCE | WE DELIVER
    Call: (305) 216-5320
    Web: https://www.asornamental.com
    Follow Us: IG: https://www.instagram.com/asornamentalnursery

    The Nursery Growers

    Call: 786-522-4942
    Email: info@thenurserygrowers.com
    IG: www.instagram.com/thenurserygrowers
    web: www.thenurserygrowers.com

    Plant Logistics Co.

    (Delivering Landscape Plant Material Throughout the State of Florida)
    Call: (305) 912-3098
    Web: https://www.plantlogisticsco.com
    Follow Us: IG: https://www.instagram.com/plantlogistics





    Directed and Produced by Eddie EVDNT Gonzalez





    Disclaimer: The contents of this podcast/youtube video are for informational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, accounting, or legal advice. I can’t promise that the information shared on my posts is appropriate for you or anyone else. By listening to this podcast/youtube video, you agree to hold me harmless from any ramifications, financial or otherwise, that occur to you as a result of acting on information found in this podcast/youtube video.

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  • EP75 - 25 YEARS OLD AND ON THE RISE WITH HIS LANDSCAPING AND DESIGN COMPANY | KEYSCAPE LANDSCAPE
    Jun 3 2025

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    On this Episode of The Plant Movement Podcast, host Willie Rodriguez welcomes Efrain Santos, the 25-year-old founder of Keyscape Landscape and Design, whose journey from job site translator to high-end landscape contractor is nothing short of inspiring. Starting at just 16, Efrain was managing his uncle’s landscape job sites and learning pricing, sourcing, and client communication firsthand. After gaining turf experience with Hellas in Texas including work on SoFi Stadium—Efrain returned to Florida and flipped the switch from employee to entrepreneur at age 21, launching his own business armed with hustle, YouTube tutorials, and a podcast by Keith Kalfas. Now based in the Florida Keys and Miami, Efrain shares how he evolved from fixing a single irrigation head to leading large-scale, detail-driven projects that include lighting, irrigation, hardscaping, and pergolas. We dive into his growth strategies, from leveraging Instagram and
    video ads to embracing tech like drones and ChatGPT for project visualization and education. Efrain also discusses why his Tesla is more than a car—it's a mobile office, branding tool, and efficiency booster.
    Throughout this episode, Efrain gets real about the challenges of earning respect as a young boss, building a brand, and balancing craftsmanship with speed. He emphasizes customer experience, clear communication, and high-quality complementary services as the keys to success in the high-end landscaping market. This episode is packed with practical advice for young entrepreneurs, insights on marketing that works, and a glimpse into the future of tech in landscaping—from 3D-printed designs to drone
    measurements.

    🎙 Want to be featured on the podcast? DM us on Instagram @theplantmovementpodcast.
    🌿 Nurseries, landscapers, and tech innovators welcome!

    KEYSCAPE LANDSCAPE

    Email: info@keyscape.com
    Call: (786) 618-0369
    Web: https://www.keyscapelandscape.com
    Follow IG: https://www.instagram.com/keyscapelandscape



    The Plant Movement Podcast

    Email: eddie@theplantmovementnetwork.com & willie@theplantmovementnetwork.com
    Call: (305) 216-5320
    Web: https://www.theplantmovement.com
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    A's Ornamental Nursery

    WE GROW | WE SOURCE | WE DELIVER
    Call: (305) 216-5320
    Web: https://www.asornamental.com
    Follow Us: IG: https://www.instagram.com/asornamentalnursery

    The Nursery Growers

    Call: 786-522-4942
    Email: info@thenurserygrowers.com
    IG: www.instagram.com/thenurserygrowers
    web: www.thenurserygrowers.com

    Plant Logistics Co.

    (Delivering Landscape Plant Material Throughout the State of Florida)
    Call: (305) 912-3098
    Web: https://www.plantlogisticsco.com
    Follow Us: IG: https://www.instagram.com/plantlogistics





    Directed and Produced by Eddie EVDNT Gonzalez





    Disclaimer: The contents of this podcast/youtube video are for informational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, accounting, or legal advice. I can’t promise that the information shared on my posts is appropriate for you or anyone else. By listening to this podcast/youtube video, you agree to hold me harmless from any ramifications, financial or otherwise, that occur to you as a result of acting on information found in this podcast/youtube video.

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  • EP74: Building a Legacy with Insurance in the Green Industry - An Interview with Mr. Bob
    May 20 2025

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    On this insightful episode of The Plant Movement Podcast, we sit down with Mr. Bob, a pioneering entrepreneur who built his career selling workers' compensation insurance to the largest nurseries in Miami-Dade County. Discover how Bob identified a gap in the market and filled it with dedication, expertise, and an unwavering commitment to service.

    Bob shares his incredible journey from his early days working for a State Farm agent during his summers as a teenager to founding his own successful insurance company. He reveals how his passion for insurance began with his father’s friendship with a State Farm agent and how a pivotal decision to join the Air Force Reserve shaped his career path.

    Tune in to learn how a chance meeting on the golf course introduced Bob to the nursery industry and set the stage for his workers' compensation success story. He reflects on key relationships, including working with industry leaders like Tony Costa, and how timing, opportunity, and networking propelled his business forward.

    Now in his next chapter after selling his insurance company, Bob continues to share his wisdom, emphasizing the importance of service, integrity, and strategic growth. This episode also touches on the evolution of insurance in the Green Industry, lessons learned from decades of experience, and advice for entrepreneurs looking to build their niche.

    Don't miss this episode filled with stories of growth, resilience, and community impact!


    TRMG

    Email: bob@trmg.net
    Call: (305) 281-4151
    Web: https://www.trmg.net
    Follow IG: https://www.instagram.com/theplantmovementpodcast


    The Plant Movement Podcast

    Email: eddie@theplantmovementnetwork.com & willie@theplantmovementnetwork.com
    Call: (305) 216-5320
    Web: https://www.theplantmovement.com
    Follow Us: IG: https://www.instagram.com/theplantmovementpodcast


    A's Ornamental Nursery


    WE GROW | WE SOURCE | WE DELIVER
    Call: (305) 216-5320
    Web: https://www.asornamental.com
    Follow Us: IG: https://www.instagram.com/asornamentalnursery

    The Nursery Growers

    Call: 786-522-4942
    Email: info@thenurserygrowers.com
    IG: www.instagram.com/thenurserygrowers
    web: www.thenurserygrowers.com

    Plant Logistics Co.

    (Delivering Landscape Plant Material Throughout the State of Florida)
    Call: (305) 912-3098
    Web: https://www.plantlogisticsco.com
    Follow Us: IG: https://www.instagram.com/plantlogistics





    Directed and Produced by Eddie EVDNT Gonzalez





    Disclaimer: The contents of this podcast/youtube video are for informational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, accounting, or legal advice. I can’t promise that the information shared on my posts is appropriate for you or anyone else. By listening to this podcast/youtube video, you agree to hold me harmless from any ramifications, financial or otherwise, that occur to you as a result of acting on information found in this podcast/youtube video.

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  • EP73 - Unlocking Growth Through Agriware: ERP Solutions for the Green Industry
    May 8 2025

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    On this episode of The Plant Movement Podcast, we dive into the world of software and systems that are transforming horticulture businesses across the globe. Host Willie Rodriguez sits down with Joshua and Garrett Walsh from Emprise Agriware, a full-service ERP (Enterprise Resource Planning) solution built specifically for the horticulture industry.
    We explore how Agriware, built on Microsoft’s Business Central platform, empowers growers and nurseries by providing tools for inventory management, space planning, labor tracking, finance, and traceability. Whether you're operating on 10 acres with a small team or managing a large wholesale operation, Agriware is designed to scale with you—solving real problems from the ground up.
    Garrett and Josh share personal stories from their deep-rooted backgrounds in horticulture, highlight their customer-first approach, and explain how Agriware integrates with existing tools like QuickBooks and Shopify to streamline operations and prepare businesses for growth, e-commerce, and beyond.
    From accurate inventory counts to streamlined customer portals and mobile-friendly field registration, this episode reveals why embracing ERP technology could be the most impactful step your business takes this year.

    Mprise Agriware United States
    228 East 45th Street, Suite 9E,
    New York, NY 10017
    Call: (720) 792-0324
    www.mprise-agriware.com


    The Plant Movement Podcast

    Email: eddie@theplantmovementnetwork.com & willie@theplantmovementnetwork.com
    Call: (305) 216-5320
    Web: https://www.theplantmovement.com
    Follow Us: IG: https://www.instagram.com/theplantmovementpodcast


    A's Ornamental Nursery

    WE GROW | WE SOURCE | WE DELIVER
    Call: (305) 216-5320
    Web: https://www.asornamental.com
    Follow Us: IG: https://www.instagram.com/asornamentalnursery

    The Nursery Growers

    Call: 786-522-4942
    Email: info@thenurserygrowers.com
    IG: www.instagram.com/thenurserygrowers
    web: www.thenurserygrowers.com

    Plant Logistics Co.

    (Delivering Landscape Plant Material Throughout the State of Florida)
    Call: (305) 912-3098
    Web: https://www.plantlogisticsco.com
    Follow Us: IG: https://www.instagram.com/plantlogistics





    Directed and Produced by Eddie EVDNT Gonzalez





    Disclaimer: The contents of this podcast/youtube video are for informational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, accounting, or legal advice. I can’t promise that the information shared on my posts is appropriate for you or anyone else. By listening to this podcast/youtube video, you agree to hold me harmless from any ramifications, financial or otherwise, that occur to you as a result of acting on information found in this podcast/youtube video.

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  • EP72: We’re Back! Faith, Focus & Full Throttle in the Green Industry
    Apr 22 2025

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    After a much-needed break, your host Willie Rodriguez and co-host Eddie Gonzalez are back in the studio and ready to plant new seeds of wisdom for the Green Industry! It’s been a minute since the powerful Martha Vegas immigration episode, and in this return, we dive deep into why every episode must bring real value to listeners—especially those new to the game.
    In this raw and motivational comeback episode, Willie shares what’s been happening behind the scenes—from family priorities and guest appearances (check out his feature on The Planter’s View, link in the description!) to serious business updates. Plant Logistics is thriving, and The Nursery Growers just cashed their first check after 1.5 years of hustle—with even more projects in the pipeline.
    This episode is packed with real talk on:
    How faith fuels our drive and how problems are meant to be overpowered, not avoided.
    The power of collaboration over competition in the Green Industry.
    Why investing in your business—even during uncertain times—is the only way forward.
    A $20K Kubota tractor purchase and the mindset behind smart, strategic investments.
    Navigating economic noise and tariffs by staying in your lane and focusing on what matters most.
    We issue an open invite to anyone in the industry doing something unique—whether it’s with rocks, services, or anything that adds value to the plant world. If you're building, innovating, or growing, this is your platform too.
    With real stories of failure, learning, and massive growth, this episode is a bold reminder: "Don’t be scared to lose money. It's part of the process."
    ✅ Key takeaway: Stay focused, take risks, invest wisely, and never stop growing—personally or professionally.

    Subscribe, share, and follow A’s Ornamental Nursery and The Plant Movement Podcast on social media for daily inspiration and updates.
    Let’s move the plant industry forward—together.

    The Planterview Interview:
    https://youtu.be/iqrcCg-g_ec


    The Plant Movement Podcast

    Email: eddie@theplantmovementnetwork.com & willie@theplantmovementnetwork.com
    Call: (305) 216-5320
    Web: https://www.theplantmovement.com
    Follow Us: IG: https://www.instagram.com/theplantmovementpodcast


    A's Ornamental Nursery

    WE GROW | WE SOURCE | WE DELIVER
    Call: (305) 216-5320
    Web: https://www.asornamental.com
    Follow Us: IG: https://www.instagram.com/asornamentalnursery

    The Nursery Growers

    Call: 786-522-4942
    Email: info@thenurserygrowers.com
    IG: www.instagram.com/thenurserygrowers
    web: www.thenurserygrowers.com

    Plant Logistics Co.

    (Delivering Landscape Plant Material Throughout the State of Florida)
    Call: (305) 912-3098
    Web: https://www.plantlogisticsco.com
    Follow Us: IG: https://www.instagram.com/plantlogistics





    Directed and Produced by Eddie EVDNT Gonzalez





    Disclaimer: The contents of this podcast/youtube video are for informational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, accounting, or legal advice. I can’t promise that the information shared on my posts is appropriate for you or anyone else. By listening to this podcast/youtube video, you agree to hold me harmless from any ramifications, financial or otherwise, that occur to you as a result of acting on information found in this podcast/youtube video.

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