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The Legendary Leaders Podcast

The Legendary Leaders Podcast

De: Cathleen O'Sullivan – Growth Accelerator for Leaders
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Welcome to the Legendary Leaders podcast series! This podcast aims to inspire thousands and thousands of people to start living their best lives! My podcast guests will be sharing their own personal paths to success, the moments when they may have hit a wall that turned into their biggest breaking point, and we will be sharing some top tips on how to proactively create some exciting changes in your life. These leaders will be talking about how they started their journey, what inspired and drove them, along with the challenges they had to overcome along the way to get to where they are now, having achieved a more content and balanced life. The podcasts will cover an array of topics from the importance of selfcare and mindset, through to bravery and authenticity, and the importance of building communities and support networks. I have interviewed leaders who have all taken varied and interesting paths, from content creators, journalists through to designers, coaches, musicians and actors a business mentors, speakers and many, many more. They all faced tough challenges which served as motivation to live their best lives yet! I hope you enjoy listening to my series of podcasts as much as I have done creating them, and I really hope you take away lots to inspire, encourage and motivate you on your journey to becoming a Legendary Leader.Cathleen O'Sullivan (Merkel) Economía Exito Profesional Gestión y Liderazgo Liderazgo
Episodios
  • Anthony Abbagnano – From Reactive to Creative: Moving One Letter (and One Breath) to Transform Leadership

    Anthony Abbagnano – From Reactive to Creative: Moving One Letter (and One Breath) to Transform Leadership
    Jan 13 2026
    What if the most powerful shift you could make as a leader wasn't another productivity hack—but simply learning to breathe? In this episode of Legendary Leaders, host Cathleen O'Sullivan sits down with Anthony Abbagnano—founder of the Alchemy of Breath and one of the world's leading voices in modern breathwork—whose calm presence and practical wisdom will make you rethink everything you thought you knew about resilience. Anthony shares why most of us have unlearned how to breathe properly, and why that disconnection costs us more than we realize. He opens up about his midlife crisis in Ibiza, the moment he realized he'd abandoned his inner child for sixty years, and how inner child work isn't just playfulness—it's reconciling with the wounded parts we left behind. With disarming warmth, he explains why trauma can be our teacher, how the difference between "reactive" and "creative" is just moving one letter, and why ten breaths before a meeting might be the most productive thing you do all day. Together, Cathleen and Anthony explore why we lose choice under stress, the neuroscience behind overwhelm, and how the Coherence breath—a simple five-second inhale, five-second exhale—can regulate your nervous system in five minutes. This conversation is for anyone racing through life, leading from chaos instead of calm, or wondering where they've been holding their breath—and what might happen if they finally let go. Episode Timeline: 00:00:46 Why most people have unlearned to breathe properly 00:06:08 Inner child work: beyond playfulness to reconciliation 00:07:35 Anthony's midlife crisis in Ibiza and creating "the bridge" process 00:13:17 How trauma takes our breath away and embeds in the body 00:17:06 Restoring choice to a choiceless moment 00:22:15 Outer Chaos, Inner Calm: navigating today's messy world 00:28:11 Reactive vs. creative: moving one letter to transform leadership 00:31:19 Building community: the five-year Italy experiment 00:42:28 Why Western society lives in shallow breathing 00:47:02 The gradient of choice: how stress shrinks our options 00:48:07 Ten breaths that transformed a hostile boardroom meeting 00:53:06 Meet, prevail, acknowledge, celebrate: the four stages of growth 00:57:41 How breath creates space for creativity in business 01:08:26 The Coherence breath: a live demonstration 01:19:53 Take a breath before you react (and do a random act of kindness) Key Takeaway: Trauma Takes Your Breath Away—Healing Means Taking It Back: When we're wounded, we literally lose our breath in that moment of impact. The body absorbs the shock and stores it as chronic tension or disease. But trauma isn't something to erase—it's something to learn from. Mo Gowdat surveyed 12,000 trauma survivors and 99% said they'd keep their trauma for the growth it brought. The work isn't forgetting the wounded parts; it's restoring choice to the moments where breath—and power—were taken away. One Breath Creates Space—And Space Creates Choice: Write out "reactive." Move the "C" to the front and you get "creative." That's what one breath does. Under stress, we self-lobotomize—exporting processing power to our amygdala, leaving us with only fight, flight, or freeze. But one conscious breath creates space between stimulus and response. Ten breaths before a meeting can transform hostility into harmony. It's not about fixing the problem—it's about polishing your lens so you can see solutions that were there all along. The Coherence Breath: Five In, Five Out, Five Minutes, Three Times a Day: Breathe in through your nose for five seconds, out for five seconds. This practice—used by military and SWAT teams worldwide—regulates your nervous system and becomes your automatic response to tension. After two weeks, it stops being something you "do" and becomes how you breathe. When panic hits? Extend your exhale to counter rising stress. Practice it when you're calm so you can reach for it when you're not. Inspire Literally Means to Bring In Spirit—That's What Leadership Looks Like: Four-fifths of neural messages go from body to brain, not the other way around. Your body knows things your mind hasn't figured out yet. Conscious breathing slows your frontal lobe and creates space for insight beyond thinking. You're not just calming down—you're accessing what Anthony calls "spiritual resources." That's when quantum shifts happen: when you stop trying to think your way through and start breathing your way into clarity. About Anthony Abbagnano: Anthony Abbagnano is a visionary healer, breathwork pioneer, and the founder of Alchemy of Breath, where a global community of over 100,000 seekers turns a biological reflex into a tool for radical transformation. A former international entrepreneur—only to walk away from the corporate world to study under masters in India and the Amazon. He's trained facilitators in 40+ countries and shared stages with everyone from Deepak...
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    1 h y 26 m
  • Karen Salmansohn – Your To-Die For List: What Matters When Productivity Isn't the Point

    Karen Salmansohn – Your To-Die For List: What Matters When Productivity Isn't the Point
    Dec 30 2025
    What makes someone quit a six-figure advertising career to write books that help people think differently? In this episode of Legendary Leaders, host Cathleen O'Sullivan sits down with Karen Salmansohn—bestselling author, behavioral change expert, and the creative force behind NotSalmon.com—whose sharp wit and mortality-driven wisdom will make you rethink everything on your to-do list. Karen shares why fun isn't frivolous—it's fuel. She breaks down the science of why laughter literally shakes ideas loose, explains why her "e-pee-phanies" in the bathroom cracked more creative codes than caffeine ever did, and reveals the mortality marble jar that transformed how she spends every single month. With disarming honesty, she opens up about hiding her intelligence to be liked and finally "coming out" as a smart person in her sixties. Together, Cathleen and Karen explore the fatal flaw of to-do lists, why your identity is the puppet master of your habits, and how writing your own eulogy can wake you up from a "near-life experience." This conversation is for anyone who's tired of sleepwalking through their days and ready to design a life their future self will actually thank them for. Episode Timeline: 00:05:36 How funny are you? Karen's son vs. Jon Stewart's verdict 00:06:34 Fun as a high-performance fuel (and meditation on steroids) 00:09:23 Manifestation, energy, and why confidence attracts results 00:14:48 From advertising to authorship: quitting the senior VP job her parents hated 00:19:38 The Häagen-Dazs theory on productivity: only pick what excites you 00:22:35 Procrastination strategies: turn your pain into purpose 00:27:03 Writing your eulogy: the wake-up call that changes everything 00:29:41 The fatal flaw of to-do lists (and why you need a to-die list) 00:33:31 The seven core values that minimize regret: A to G 00:38:31 Identity-based statements: "I am loving, so I find a way to Connecticut" 00:44:34 Feisty then, feisty now: how Karen sold the book her agent didn't want 00:46:33 Hiding her intelligence to be liked, then embracing it fully in her sixties 00:57:14 Hedonia vs. eudaimonia: why happiness isn't the goal 01:00:16 Life as a den of pleasure AND a laboratory for growth 01:12:51 Near-life experiences: when you're scrolling instead of living 01:16:07 The mortality marble jar: 437 marbles and a monthly reckoning Key Takeaway: Your Identity Is the Puppet Master of Your Habits: Who you think you are determines what you actually do. If you walk around thinking "I'm sloppy," you'll do sloppy things. If you think "I'm a loving person," you'll find a way to get to Connecticut for your friend's birthday—even without a car. Studies show people who identified as "voters" were three times more likely to show up at the polls than those who just heard clever slogans. Change your identity statement, change your behavior. To-Do Lists Prioritize Productivity, Not Meaning—That's Their Fatal Flaw: You can check off every box on your to-do list and still waste your life. Karen created a "to-die list" alongside her to-do list—a place for meaningful habits tied to core values, not just tasks. The top regrets of the dying? Working too hard, not spending time with friends, not allowing themselves to be happier, not living true to themselves. Your to-die list is the bridge between current you and the person your eulogy will describe. Life Is a Den of Pleasure AND a Laboratory for Growth—You Need Both: We're addicted to instant gratification—scrolling, avoiding discomfort, waiting for "someday." But here's the truth: you can't seize every day. Aristotle said the goal isn't living pain-free; it's learning lessons that grow you into your best self. Emotional diversity is what makes you flourish. Instead of "seize the day," try "seize every other day." The moments in the laboratory of growth—where you get curious about your patterns and repair what keeps repeating—are what make the pleasure meaningful. The Mortality Marble Jar: Math That Shakes You Awake: Karen calculated how many months she has left if she lives to 100 (she promised her son). She bought that many marbles, put them in a jar, and every month she moves one marble to her "past" jar. The first time she did it, she couldn't remember what she'd done that month. Depressing. Now she intentionally plans meaningful experiences—dancing with friends, theater nights, time with her son—so when she holds that marble, she has something to report. The question that changes everything: "Is this really worth a marble of my life?" About Karen Salmansohn: Karen Salmansohn is a bestselling author, behavioral change expert, and the founder of NotSalmon.com, where 1.5 million followers get their daily dose of psychology wrapped in wit. A former senior VP creative director who walked away from advertising in her twenties—despite her parents' protests—she's sold over 2 million books including How to Be Happy,...
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    1 h y 25 m
  • Stop Being So Damn Helpful: The Curse of the Over-Responsible Leader

    Stop Being So Damn Helpful: The Curse of the Over-Responsible Leader
    Dec 24 2025

    Are you the person everyone turns to because you'll "just handle it"? The one replying to emails at 11pm, rewriting your team's work, or silently resenting the people you keep rescuing? In this solo episode, Cathleen O'Sullivan tackles a behavior that's as exhausting as it is common: over-functioning in the name of being helpful.

    Cathleen reveals why constant helpfulness isn't kindness—it's a control strategy that stifles growth, creates dependency, and keeps you small. She shares the story of a leader who was praised for being dependable but passed over for promotion because she wasn't seen as visionary, and unpacks why always being the fixer means you're losing time, energy, and strategic thinking space.

    This punchy episode delivers four practical steps to shift from over-functioning to actual leadership: building awareness around guilt-driven yeses, replacing rescuing with coaching questions, using scripts that empower without abandoning, and practicing the useful discomfort of not jumping in. Your team doesn't need a hero. They need a leader. And you need your energy back.

    Episode Timeline:

    00:01:01 Why being helpful is actually a curse

    00:01:44 "It's just quicker if I do it"—the trap of over-functioning

    00:03:43 The exhausted leader who felt like a parent to her team

    00:04:35 How helpfulness backfires: creating dependency, not ownership

    00:05:59 The people pleaser passed over for promotion

    00:06:45 Step 1: Build awareness—am I doing work that's not mine?

    00:08:19 Step 2: Replace rescuing with coaching questions

    00:10:09 Step 3: The script for letting go without guilt

    00:12:00 Step 4: Practice useful discomfort—let them struggle and grow

    00:14:08 The truth: over-helpfulness is a control strategy in disguise

    00:14:42 Your challenge: find one moment this week and don't jump in

    Key Takeaway:

    • Step 1: Build Awareness—Notice When You're Over-Functioning Am I doing work that's not mine? Saying yes out of guilt? Secretly resentful? One leader kept rewriting her team's decks—not for quality, but out of fear of being judged. Keep asking "why" until you hit the root cause.

    • Step 2: Replace Rescuing with Coaching Questions Don't jump into fix-it mode. Ask: "What have you tried? Where did you get stuck? What do you think could work?" Put ownership back in their hands. Let them think first—then see where they really get stuck.

    • Step 3: Use a Script for Letting Go Without Guilt Try this: "I trust you to run with this. If you hit a wall, I'm here, but I know you've got this." Leadership isn't about perfection—it's about empowerment and growing together.

    • Step 4: Practice Useful Discomfort—Let Them Struggle Wait 24 hours before replying. Let someone struggle without stepping in—they'll figure it out. Ask yourself: Am I fixing this to help, or to feel needed? Growth is messy. If you never let them wobble, they'll never walk on their own.

    Connect with Cathleen O'Sullivan:

    Business: https://cathleenosullivan.com/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cathleen-osullivan/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/legendary_leaders_cathleenos/

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