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“The future is already here. It’s just not evenly distributed.” The Generalist Podcast brings you weekly conversations with the people who live in these pockets of the future – visionary founders, prescient investors, and original thinkers. Each episode is designed to introduce you to new ideas, technologies, and markets and help you prepare for the world of tomorrow.Mario Gabriele
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  • Everyone Is Betting on Bigger LLMs. She's Betting They're Fundamentally Wrong. (Eve Bodnia, Founder & CEO of Logical Intelligence)
    Feb 24 2026
    Eve Bodnia is the co-founder and CEO of Logical Intelligence, which is developing energy-based reasoning models (EBMs) as an alternative to large language models. She argues that LLMs, which operate by recognizing and recombining patterns within language space, are structurally incapable of genuine reasoning. Eve's alternative: Kona — an EBM that reasons in abstract latent space, learns rules about the world rather than surface patterns, and can interface with language models as one output channel among many. Eve traces the core ideas behind her architecture to decades of work in symmetry groups, condensed matter physics, and brain science — fields that share, as she explains, the same underlying mathematics. In a public demo, Kona solved a complex reasoning task for roughly $4 in compute, compared to an estimated $15,000 using frontier LLMs. With Yann LeCun serving as founding chair of its technical board, Logical Intelligence sits at the center of a small but growing effort to rethink AI beyond language-based models.In our conversation, we explore:Why Eve believes LLMs can’t truly extrapolate knowledge, even at larger scaleWhat energy-based reasoning models are—and where the “energy” concept comes fromThe $4 vs. $15,000 benchmark, and what it tells us about the cost of guessing vs. knowingHow Logical Intelligence showed spontaneous knowledge transfer at just 16M parametersWhy systems like chip design, surgical robotics, and power grids need more than probabilistic AIWhat formally verified code generation means for the future of programmingWhy the math behind particle physics also explains how the brain filters signal from noiseHow meeting Grigori Perelman as a teenager shaped Eve’s views on ego and ownership in scienceWhy Eve believes humans must remain the constraint-setters in advanced AIHow meditation, piano, and Eastern philosophy support her creative process—Thank you to the partners who make this possibleGranola: The app that might actually make you love meetings.Persona: Trusted identity verification for any use case.—Transcript: https://www.generalist.com/p/everyone-is-betting-on-bigger-llms—Timestamps(00:00) Introduction(03:03) Eve’s encounter with Grigori Perelman(05:38) Why bizarre people are Eve’s favorite people(06:56) Her early obsession with math and physics(09:02) The manifold hypothesis and language(11:54) The Kekulé Problem(14:05) Eve’s upbringing and her CERN research in high school(17:40) Eve’s academic path(20:36) Symmetry in nature(22:58) Spirituality and creativity(27:00) Theory vs. experiment(29:03) Uncovering a critical gap in AI models(33:45) What Logical Intelligence is building(35:50) Logical Intelligence’s use cases(42:08) Energy-based models explained(45:06) LLMs vs. EBMs(48:01) AGI defined(51:22) Kona’s knowledge extrapolation(53:20) The team behind Logical Intelligence(58:09) Early investors in Logical Intelligence(58:50) Feynman’s influence on Eve’s work(1:01:15) How Eve sustains her creativity(1:03:42) Final meditations—Follow Eve BodniaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eve-bodnia-351b41355X: https://x.com/evelovesoliveWebsite: https://logicalintelligence.com—Resources and episode mentions: https://www.generalist.com/p/everyone-is-betting-on-bigger-llms⁠—Production and marketing by penname.co. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email jordan@penname.co.
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  • How Bolt Survived An 85% Revenue Crash And Became Europe's Ride-Hailing Champion (Markus Villig, Founder & CEO)
    Feb 19 2026
    In 2013, on an Estonian island of just 10,000 residents, a teenager borrowed €5,000 from his parents and decided to take on Uber. Twelve years later, Markus Villig leads Bolt, a company operating in 50+ countries, generating nearly €3 billion in revenue, and standing as one of the only European tech companies competing at true global scale. Rather than going head-to-head with incumbents in their strongest markets, Bolt expanded through underserved cities, emerging economies, and overlooked segments of urban transport. When COVID erased 85% of its revenue in weeks, the company didn’t retreat; it staged a kind of corporate “eucatastrophe,” pivoting into food delivery across nearly 20 countries in what became a company-wide sprint. That same bias toward action now shapes Markus’s broader agenda: investing in defense tech for Estonia and Ukraine, pushing for capital markets reform, and advancing a contrarian thesis on autonomous vehicles.In this conversation, we discuss:How growing up in Soviet-occupied Estonia shaped Markus’s ambition and moral clarityHow Bolt’s European ethos and long-term focus on driver retention became a structural advantageThe marketplace models and capital discipline that allowed Bolt to outmaneuver better-funded rivalsWhy Bolt found breakout success in African markets after failing in 12 Western countriesThe 85% revenue collapse during COVID and the rapid food delivery pivot that reshaped the companyBolt’s partnerships with Stellantis and Pony.ai and its long-term bet on autonomous vehiclesWhy Ukrainian and Eastern European startups are often outperforming their Western peersMarkus’s blueprint for closing Europe’s tech deficit and building globally competitive companies—Thank you to the partners who make this possibleGranola: The app that might actually make you love meetingsBrex: The intelligent finance platform.Persona: Trusted identity verification for any use case.—Transcript: https://www.generalist.com/p/how-bolt-survived-an-85-revenue-crash—Timestamps(00:00) Intro(03:32) How The Lord of the Rings shaped Markus’s worldview(05:52) Bolt’s underdog story and its existential turning point(10:22) Estonia’s startup DNA and its imprint on Bolt(13:38) Europe’s ambition problem(17:23) Europe’s defense tech gap(23:09) The need for capital market reform in Europe(25:13) Bolt’s origin story(36:35) Frugality as strategy(38:24) What running Bolt actually demands(41:27) The hidden costs of being too lean(42:50) Bolt’s shift to experimentation(44:10) Bolt’s micromobility strategy(45:50) How Bolt found the right markets(50:44) The Serbian mob story(54:00) Markus on venture capital and lessons from Klarna’s board(55:40) Why Bolt never sold(57:08) Bolt’s autonomous vehicle (AV) strategy and key partnerships(1:05:50) The concept of culture-market fit(1:07:48) How Bolt operates: writing, hiring, reading, and more(1:13:15) Markus’s personal strengths(1:14:15) What people get wrong about business(1:16:27) Final meditations—Follow Markus VilligX: https://x.com/villigmLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markusvillig—Resources and episode mentions: https://www.generalist.com/p/how-bolt-survived-an-85-revenue-crash—Production and marketing by penname.co. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email jordan@penname.co.
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  • The Private Company Bringing Nuclear Enrichment Back to America (Scott Nolan, CEO of General Matter)
    Feb 3 2026

    Roughly 20% of the U.S. power grid runs on nuclear energy. A quarter of the fuel behind it is headed toward a hard stop. In this episode, I sit down with Scott Nolan, founder and CEO of General Matter, to unpack why uranium enrichment has quietly become one of the most consequential industrial bottlenecks of the 21st century. While at Founders Fund, Scott spent over a year searching for an American enrichment company to back. When he couldn’t find one, he decided to build it himself. Less than a year after emerging from stealth, General Matter secured a historic enrichment site in Paducah, Kentucky, and was awarded a $900 million Department of Energy contract—marking one of the first serious efforts to rebuild domestic enrichment capacity ahead of the 2028 ban on Russian supply.


    In this episode, we discuss:

    • Why enrichment is the missing link in America’s nuclear supply chain
    • How the U.S. went from controlling 86% of global enrichment capacity to effectively none at commercial scale
    • The science behind uranium enrichment and why it matters for next-generation reactors
    • Why Scott applied the SpaceX playbook to nuclear after more than a decade in venture capital
    • How General Matter is revitalizing the historic Paducah, Kentucky enrichment site
    • The significance of General Matter’s $900 million Department of Energy contract
    • The bipartisan political support for expanding nuclear energy
    • Why Scott believes nuclear energy could grow 3-4x by 2050
    • The parallels between America’s space and nuclear industries

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    Transcript: https://www.generalist.com/p/the-private-company-bringing-nuclear

    Timestamps

    (00:00) Introduction to Scott Nolan

    (03:11) General Matter’s mission to rebuild U.S. enrichment

    (05:06) How the U.S. lost its edge

    (06:28) The nuclear fuel cycle explained—and where enrichment fits

    (08:30) Scott’s background: From SpaceX and Founders Fund to General Matter

    (13:54) Lessons from SpaceX

    (17:32) How Scott’s focus evolved over 13 years at Founders Fund

    (20:57) How Scott landed on nuclear enrichment

    (25:55) Why nuclear energy was off the radar—until recently

    (30:07) Finding the right partner: Scott and Lee’s collaboration

    (32:01) What downblending means and why it matters

    (33:26) How U.S. uranium enrichment quietly came to an end

    (38:32) The Russian uranium ban and the 2028 supply cliff

    (40:38) How General Matter plans to compete

    (43:05) Building a world-class team

    (46:38) The market for enriched uranium

    (49:31) Future bottlenecks

    (50:53) What the U.S. needs to actually scale nuclear energy

    (52:40) Uranium supply constraints

    (54:14) LEU vs. HALEU: the fuels powering old and new reactors

    (57:01) Why 20% enrichment is a critical threshold

    (59:30) Why General Matter chose Paducah, Kentucky

    (1:04:34) Legislation and executive orders easing nuclear friction

    (1:09:42) The $900 million Department of Energy award

    (1:11:00) Why mission matters most

    (1:14:12) Final meditations

    Follow Scott Nolan

    X: https://x.com/ScottNolan

    Resources and episode mentions: https://www.generalist.com/p/the-private-company-bringing-nuclear

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