This week on The Gavin Sisters Wellness Show, Sharon and I are talking about something that honestly makes both of us feel slightly anxious… money.

Finance has always felt a bit overwhelming (and if I'm honest, a bit boring) but it's also something that affects every part of our wellbeing — our stress levels, our sleep, our relationships and how free we feel in our lives.

Before we dive into the conversation, we start with our usual weekly catch-up. This includes my irritation with wellness buzzwords like mindful eating, Sharon's slightly terrifying medical results appointment (thankfully she's absolutely fine), and a reminder that life is never quite as calm and balanced as the wellness world sometimes suggests.

Then we're joined by Sammie Ellard-King, founder of Up The Gains, and the conversation becomes really fascinating.

Sammie shares how he found himself around £24,000 in debt after university, how trying to keep up appearances in London made things spiral, and the moment he realised something had to change.

What I loved about this conversation is that Sammy doesn't talk about money in a complicated or intimidating way. Instead, he breaks it down into simple habits, mindset shifts and small actions that anyone can take.

We talk about how our childhood and family experiences shape our relationship with money, why so many people feel ashamed or avoid looking at their finances, and how even saving small amounts can completely change your confidence over time.

By the end of the episode I actually felt… dare I say it… inspired about finance.

• Why money can feel stressful, overwhelming and taboo

• Sammy's journey from £24k of debt to financial stability

• How family patterns shape our money habits

• The emotional side of spending and wanting to "fit in"

• Why traditional budgeting doesn't work for most people

• The idea of automating your finances to remove stress

• Side hustles and creative ways to increase income

• The psychology behind impulse spending

• Money mindset, abundance and believing things can change

You don't need to become a financial expert to improve your relationship with money.

Small steps, small habits and a bit of awareness can go a really long way.

And perhaps most importantly, money stress is something almost everyone experiences, so there's absolutely no shame in learning about it.

Sammie Ellard-King is the founder of Up The Gains, a platform designed to simplify finance and help people feel more confident managing their money.

After getting himself out of debt in his twenties, Sammy began sharing what he'd learned in a way that felt simple, practical and accessible. He now runs a large online community helping people understand finance without the jargon.

You can find Sammy here: https://upthegains.co.uk/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/upthegainsmoney/

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In this interview, wellness expert Gudiya Patel shares her story of receiving two kidney cancer diagnoses—both discovered through preventive testing—alongside the realities of parenting, running a business, caregiving, and living in long-term fight-or-flight. She explains why she became passionate about testing and prevention, what's realistically available via a GP vs privately, and how stress can shape health over time.

The conversation explores the mind–body connection, including the impact of thoughts, cortisol, and nervous system regulation, and how Gudiya's deeper work with mindfulness and Dr. Joe Dispenza's meditations helped her shift patterns of fear, reactivity, and negativity. They also discuss gratitude, coping with uncertainty, and manifestation—including what to do when things don't unfold the way you expected.

• Gudiya's first kidney cancer diagnosis discovered "by fluke" during a health screen in India

• Surgery, recovery, and why it prompted her to study nutrition and deeper wellness

• Caring responsibilities, marriage stress, business pressure — and years of chronic stress

• A second diagnosis on her remaining kidney, also discovered through routine testing

• Why Gudiya advocates for preventive testing (bloods, vitamins, diagnostics)

• NHS reality: what you can request from a GP vs what requires private testing

• Stress physiology: fight-or-flight, cortisol, gut health, and coping behaviours

• Joe Dispenza's approach: thoughts, the subconscious, and changing internal states

• Shifting from reacting to responding (and reducing ego-driven responses)

• Gratitude journaling: a daily practice for perspective and emotional regulation

• Fear, surrender, and staying present when the future feels uncertain

• Manifestation as "resonance": embodying the feeling rather than focusing on the "how"

• Why money doesn't automatically equal happiness — joy as the real goal

07:32 – Guest intro: Gudiya Patel + her work in holistic wellness
09:30 – First kidney cancer diagnosis found during testing in India
11:44 – Surgery + life shifts: nutrition, mindfulness, natural living
13:54 – Second diagnosis + how chronic stress played a role
16:15 – Preventive testing: GP limitations vs private options
18:42 – Joe Dispenza + mind–body connection insights
21:01 – Changing the inner narrative; reacting vs responding
25:18 – Gratitude practice and journaling through hard moments
27:40 – Retreat observations: switching off, stress, and women's load
30:00 – Fear, surrender, and staying present
34:43 – Protecting your energy from news/politics/AI overwhelm
43:28 – Manifestation and handling setbacks when things don't go to plan
48:11 – Money, freedom, and joy
50:31 – How to work with Gudiya + retreat dates

Gudiya Patel

https://www.phiclinic.com/gudiya-patel

https://gudiyawellness.com/

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In this episode, We sit down with Will Chase, the entrepreneur behind Tyrell's Crisps, Chase Distillery, and Willie's Apple Cider Vinegar. Will takes us through his journey from conventional farming to building some of the UK's most successful food and drink brands.

We talk about:

• Turning potatoes into Tyrell's Crisps and discovering the huge market for vegetable chips.

• Launching a craft distillery and exploring the craft spirit boom in the UK.

• How Willie's Apple Cider Vinegar "with the living mother" is different from anything else on the market.

• The highs, lows, and failures in building businesses, and how trust and community are everything.

• Coping with stress, ADHD, and anxiety in entrepreneurship.

• Reflections on wealth, happiness, and doing what you love versus chasing money.

• Insights on wellness, longevity, and the power of sober living.

If you're an entrepreneur, a wellness enthusiast, or just curious about what it takes to build a brand that lasts, this episode is packed with actionable insights and inspiration.

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In this episode of The Gavin Sisters Wellness Show, Lauretta and Sharon welcome award-winning entrepreneur and personal branding expert Sophie Millican, MBE.

The sisters kick off with a candid (and hilarious) chat about "wellness bros," performative gratitude, and sales disguised as service, before diving into a powerful, honest conversation about entrepreneurship, resilience, and risk-taking.

Sophie shares her journey from corporate life at John Lewis to building and selling her first business, the realities of being a single mum while scaling companies, remortgaging her house to fund growth, and why midlife can be the perfect time to build something bold.

They explore manifestation vs practical goal-setting, handling fear when investing in your own business, why women often take fewer risks than men, and how personal branding can transform opportunities.

If you're building a business, thinking about starting one later in life, or feeling the emotional highs and lows of entrepreneurship — this episode is for you.

00:00 – Who we are & why we started the podcast
01:00 – Wellness bros, performative "service" & fake authenticity
06:20 – Free courses that aren't free + the "waitlist" myth
07:20 – Sponsor: Funky Coffee (Detox Barn)
09:15 – Introducing Sophie Millican, MBE
10:00 – Entrepreneurial highs, lows & burnout
11:05 – Sophie's journey: corporate life to business owner
15:00 – Starting a business out of necessity
17:25 – Building SRS & scaling a consultancy
21:30 – Losing a business partner & stepping into sales
23:50 – Writing a book & reclaiming your time
26:20 – Productivity, energy & evening routines
29:30 – What really makes entrepreneurs succeed
31:30 – Comedy, rejection & resilience in business
33:20 – Manifestation vs grounded goal-setting
37:30 – Women, confidence & risk-taking
41:20 – Remortgaging, fear & building as a single mum
48:00 – Vulnerability, personal story & leadership
52:10 – Is it too late to start a business?
56:20 – Sophie's book + where to find her

Sophie Millican, MBE
CEO of Moja | Founder of SRS | Chair of Smart Works Newcastle
Author of From Unknown to Unforgettable: How to Build a Personal Brand that Goes Beyond the Bio

https://www.sophiemilliken.co.uk/

https://thisismoja.com/

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Dr. Chidy joins The Gavin Sisters Wellness Show to unpack what it really takes to reverse chronic disease using meals, movement, and mindset. The conversation covers autoimmune conditions and the "root cause" concept (including leaky gut and immune triggers), why vitamin D is a non-negotiable (especially in darker climates), and what Dr. Chiddy sees as the most sustainable path to healing: a whole-food, plant-based lifestyle.

They also tackle controversial topics like carnivore/keto claims, why some people feel better short-term on restrictive plans, and why Dr. Chidy believes Ozempic/Wegovy come with risks that aren't being taken seriously. The biggest thread running through the episode: hope isn't fluffy—it's practical, and the body can change when inputs change.

• The 3-part framework Dr. Chiddy uses to find the root cause: meals, movement, mindset

• Why autoimmune disease often links back to gut permeability ("leaky gut") and immune cross-reactions

• The top common triggers Dr. Chiddy removes first: dairy, refined sugar, meat (and sometimes wheat)

• Why vitamin D matters for immune balance—especially in northern climates

• Dr. Chiddy's approach to reversing type 2 diabetes (including why beans aren't the enemy)

• Why plant-based eating is the only approach he's seen that stays holistic across the whole body

• The role of stress, forgiveness, and self-compassion in healing chronic illness

• Why "quick fixes" can rob you of the growth and healing journey

• Dr. Chiddy's concerns about Ozempic/Wegovy and the bigger picture of the obesity crisis

• 00:00 – Quick intro + life update

• 04:40 – Meet Dr. Chidy: lifestyle medicine, plant-based living, reversing disease

• 07:30 – Dr. Chiddy's origin story: from Kellogg-inspired curiosity to medicine and beyond

• 11:40 – Autoimmune root causes explained: leaky gut, antibodies, and cross-reactivity

• 15:50 – What to remove first (dairy/sugar/meat) + why vitamin D is a game-changer

• 19:30 – Stress and autoimmune flares: fight-or-flight, healing environments, nervous system load

• 25:10 – "Forgiveness and love" as a real health practice (not just a nice idea)

• 30:10 – Why plant-based wins long-term (and what carnivore/keto gets wrong)

• 36:20 – Fasting and time-restricted eating: what Dr. Chiddy agrees almost everyone benefits from

• 41:40 – Diabetes reversal: "beans, greens, vegetables" and what happens in 2–4 weeks

• 49:30 – Obesity crisis: why fat + sugar hijacks the brain (comfort eating + addiction)

• 54:00 – Ozempic/Wegovy: side effects, long-term risk, and why lifestyle still matters

• 01:00:40 – How to work with Dr. Chiddy + what he personally supplements with

• 01:04:00 – Upcoming projects: Life Colours app + book series on reversing disease

• Dr. Chiddy: drchidi.com

• https://www.linkedin.com/in/drchidimd/

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This week we're joined by William Porter, author of Alcohol Explained, for a clear, no-nonsense look at why alcohol is so compelling, and why it can be so hard to moderate. We talk about alcohol's sedative effect, how the brain counteracts it (and why that can feel like anxiety later), why cravings aren't just "lack of willpower," and how alcohol disrupts sleep (including those familiar 3am wake-ups). We also unpack the myth of alcohol as a "truth drug," the link between drinking and low mood, and why many people find it easier to stop completely than to keep negotiating "rules" around drinking.

• Why alcohol is a sedative (and why it can still seem "stimulating")

• The brain's rebound effect: relaxation → anxiety as alcohol wears off

• How craving builds as a learned loop (not a moral failing)

• Why some people don't drink in the morning—even though it would "work"

• Alcohol and sleep disruption (REM, tiredness, 2–4am wake-ups)

• The "truth drug" myth and emotional dysregulation

• Drinking, depression & anxiety: why the relationship goes both ways

• Why quitting can feel like freedom, not discipline

• A practical tool: "play it forward" (what happens after the first drink)

William Porter — Author of Alcohol Explained

https://alcoholexplained.com/

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When Mail journalist Sandra Parsons suffered a serious back injury in her mid-40s, she knew something had to change. Years of smoking, drinking, and late-night takeaways at her desk had taken their toll—she was in constant pain and felt, quite simply, old.

Determined to heal her body, Sandra began exploring the science of ageing—and was amazed by what she discovered: that ageing is increasingly seen not as an inevitability, but as a treatable condition. By tackling its root causes, it's possible to turn back the biological clock and dramatically extend your health span.

Drawing on cutting-edge medical research and advice from the world's leading longevity experts, she developed a three-step plan focusing on how we eat, move, and rest. Designed to build sustainable long-term habits, the plan delivers noticeable results in just a few weeks. With health quizzes at each step, simple food swaps, and practical lifestyle tweaks, the book offers a realistic and empowering path to reversing years of damage—and feeling better than ever.

Now 61, Sandra recently took a biological age test—and it revealed she has the internal health markers of a 20-year-old. That's right: 61 on the outside, 20 on the inside. This book shares exactly how she achieved that transformation—and how you can too.

I keep quoting from her book because everything she uncovered aligns perfectly with what Sharon and I have learned. What I especially loved is her message that it's never too late, and that small, consistent changes can create massive results. We also really liked Sandra herself—kind, patient, and a true fountain of knowledge.

SandraParsons worked at The Times and edited T2 for 8 years, before becoming a columnist at the Daily Mail. She has now been the Daily Mail's Literary Editor for 15 years. She is also a qualified yoga instructor.

This is a must listen!!!

https://www.instagram.com/agelessthemethod/

Ageless Book

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