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The Co-Living Show

The Co-Living Show

De: Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain
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Co-living is one of the most misunderstood, and highest-potential, strategies in residential real estate investing. Most investors hear the buzzwords, see the cash-flow claims, and immediately assume it’s either too risky, too operationally intense, or too complicated to scale. The truth is simpler: co-living and coliving work exceptionally well when built on systems, governed by operational clarity, and executed like a real business, not a side hustle. The Co-Living Show exists to make that clarity accessible for serious professionals who want smarter returns without gambling on guesswork.


Hosted by BiggerPockets authors Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain, The Co-Living Show goes far beyond surface-level real estate content. This is the only real estate investing podcast dedicated exclusively to the economics, operations, regulations, and strategic frameworks that drive high-density co-living and shared housing at scale. Whether you’re new to the model or a high-earning, time-poor professional seeking exposure to a sophisticated cash-flow real estate strategy without becoming an operator, this show delivers the confidence, understanding, and insight needed to invest intelligently.


Each episode takes you inside the real-world systems behind co-living performance. You’ll hear from operators running multi-market portfolios, attorneys specializing in zoning and compliance, designers who understand space optimization and profitability, lenders financing room-by-room rental strategies, and property managers and city officials shaping the future of affordable housing innovation. You’ll also hear from the Co-Living Cash Flow Community, everyday investors solving operational challenges and executing the exact frameworks discussed on the show.

👉 Join the community: www.millermcswain.com/community


There is no fluff here. No hype. No motivational noise. Every conversation is grounded in data, regulatory insight, operational logic, and investor-level clarity. Co-living is not “passive income.” It’s not a shortcut. It’s a system. And systems — when executed correctly — produce scalable, predictable returns that outperform traditional rental models. This is not speculative theory. It’s cash-flow real estate strategy in action.


Craig brings acquisitions, underwriting, and market strategy. Miller brings operations, pricing systems, and standardization frameworks that make coliving scalable. Together, they deliver an operator’s perspective of an asset class most investors only see from the outside. As BiggerPockets authors, educators, and practitioners, they simplify complexity without diluting truth: coliving works, but only when done correctly.


You’ll hear underwriting breakdowns, operator case studies, deal teardowns, regulatory realities, tenant strategy, market analysis, and the economic logic behind high-density residential investing. You’ll learn how to invest passively, partner with experienced operators, or simply understand the business model in depth, even if you never plan to manage a property yourself.

The Co-Living Show does not claim co-living works.
It proves when, why, and under what conditions it works.

If you want confidence instead of conjecture, systems instead of speculation, and clarity instead of chaos, this is your source of truth for professional-grade residential real estate investing.


Subscribe and join thousands of investors building deeper understanding, stronger portfolios, and smarter strategies, without wasting time on noise.

This is the future of residential real estate investing. And now you’ll finally understand how it works.


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Episodios
  • Episode 264 - Craig Curelop’s Final Invest2Fi Episode | 5 Years of Real Estate Growth & Co-Living

    Episode 264 - Craig Curelop’s Final Invest2Fi Episode | 5 Years of Real Estate Growth & Co-Living
    Oct 29 2025

    After over five years and more than 260 episodes, host Craig Curelop, known as The FI Guy and a leading voice in real estate investing and financial independence, announces the bittersweet farewell of the Invest2FI Podcast. In this short but heartfelt episode, Craig reflects on the podcast’s incredible journey, lessons learned from scaling and focus, and what’s next for his ventures in co-living, real estate investing, and coaching.

    Gain insight into his mindset shift, upcoming projects with The FI Team and HomeCrew.co, and how to stay connected as Craig continues to inspire investors nationwide.

    PODCAST HIGHLIGHTS:

    [00:19] Farewell announcement and reflections on five transformative years of Invest2FI.[00:29] Craig explains his decision to discontinue the podcast and lessons from Scaling.com.
    [01:18] Insights from Benjamin Hardy and learning to eliminate tasks “below the floor.”
    [02:02] Shifting focus to The FI Team’s mission to reduce the U.S. retirement age to 55. [02:20] Deep dive into co-living investments and operational scaling strategies.
    [02:52] Discussing future growth models including franchising and investor funds.
    [03:34] Why co-living aligns with solving America’s housing affordability crisis.
    [04:07] Craig assures continued real estate work and support for investors nationwide.
    [05:01] Details on property management structure and criteria for co-living homes.
    [05:52] Heartfelt goodbye, gratitude to listeners, and an invitation to stay connected.


    HOST

    Craig Curelop

    📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thefiguy

    📘 Book: https://store.biggerpockets.com/products/the-house-hacking-strategy

    🏘️ Buy Real Estate: https://bit.ly/3V3QDze

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    7 m
  • Episode 263 - Real Estate With Purpose: Building Sober Living Homes & Grants Explained with Jim Boad

    Episode 263 - Real Estate With Purpose: Building Sober Living Homes & Grants Explained with Jim Boad
    Oct 22 2025

    What if real estate could rebuild lives while building lasting wealth? In this 45-minute episode of Invest2FI, host Craig Curelop welcomes back real estate investor Jim Boad for an in-depth conversation about scaling success through trust, discipline, and purpose. Jim shares how he pivoted during COVID from struggling rentals to sober-living group homes that blend community impact with strong returns.

    Operating in a small Washington market near Olympia, he explains his model of five-bedroom, three-bath homes renting for $700 per bed, often partnered with recovery clinics and DOC reentry programs that prepay several months in advance.

    Jim also discusses leveraging $100K–$200K grants, launching a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, and working with private lenders at two points and ten percent interest to fund and scale 18 new builds. This episode reveals how purpose-driven investing can generate both financial freedom and meaningful community change.

    PODCAST HIGHLIGHTS:

    [03:42] Craig tees up the sober living deep dive with Jim’s backstory.

    [04:00] COVID nonpaying rentals force Jim to pivot toward group homes.

    [5:24] Buys a $500 coaching course overnight and launches within a week.

    [07:39] Converts rentals into sober living homes and adds extra bedrooms.

    [09:41] Payment totals $2,700 monthly; collects $7,000 using per-bed rent.

    [11:03] Residents’ stays are prepaid for two to six months by recovery programs.

    [12:01] Operations manager Shay handles calls, phones, and food support.

    [15:31] Random drug testing; any failed test leads to immediate removal.

    [18:00] Explains the drug-free rule to maintain state and grant compliance.

    [20:47] Research areas by mapping local clinics and case manager networks.

    [24:03] Expands via referrals from agencies impressed with his housing quality.

    [27:36] Keeps furnishing simple, durable furniture, storage, and ready rooms only.

    [28:12] Secures $200,000 in grant funding and forms a 501(c)(3) nonprofit.

    [30:26] Grants fund operations, staff, utilities, and resident scholarships.

    [32:26] Now building 18 homes, start two, refinance, then repeat the process.

    [34:20] Private lenders fund projects at two points and ten percent interest.

    [34:51] He met his main lender at a bar, proof that valuable connections can happen anywhere.

    [36:16] Keeps 30–35% equity to build long-term legacy instead of chasing quick profits.

    [41:37] Advises new investors to start small and build credibility through consistency.

    [42:26] Success story: one property doubled in value through patience and discipline.

    HOST

    Craig Curelop

    📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thefiguy

    📘 Book: https://store.biggerpockets.com/products/the-house-hacking-strategy

    🏘️ Buy Real Estate: https://bit.ly/3V3QDze

    GUEST

    Jim Boad

    📱 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61567072777563

    💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jim-boad-aba962b5

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    46 m
  • Episode 262 - Yoni Kaszynski’s Scrappy House Hack Playbook in Seattle–Tacoma: $623,000 Triplex, $6,300 Gross, Camper Hack, 5% Down, Pierce County ADU Puzzles, and More

    Episode 262 - Yoni Kaszynski’s Scrappy House Hack Playbook in Seattle–Tacoma: $623,000 Triplex, $6,300 Gross, Camper Hack, 5% Down, Pierce County ADU Puzzles, and More
    Oct 15 2025

    Ever wondered how to invest in one of the most expensive housing markets in America and still make it profitable? In this inspiring episode of Invest2FI, host Craig Curelop is with Yoni Kaszynski, a scrappy real estate investor who turned a high-cost Seattle market into a powerful cash-flow machine.

    Yoni reveals how he financed his projects with a 0% AMEX card, filled rooms through Facebook Marketplace, and managed construction chaos while working full-time. He shares candid insights on finding reliable contractors, scaling property management, and achieving financial independence through real estate—without overcomplicating the process.

    If you’ve ever wondered how to start investing on a budget or turn a small deal into a freedom-generating portfolio, this episode is packed with actionable wisdom, real numbers, and unfiltered lessons from a self-made investor on the rise.

    PODCAST HIGHLIGHTS:

    [03:32] Yoni shares his move from Chicago to Seattle-Tacoma.

    [04:13] Explains how real estate seemed only for the wealthy

    [04:36] Explains early condo hunt and why Seattle HOA rules killed cash flow.

    [08:01] Realtor pivots him toward Pierce County and Tacoma multi-family options.

    [08:46] Finds $623,000 triplex; inherited 2-bed unit renting for $2,291 monthly.

    [09:45] Discovers “studio” was a converted beauty salon with permit issues.

    [11:06] First lender blocks the deal— bans ADUs on multi-family.

    [11:04] Yoni calls 300 lenders and finds one that keeps the 6.88% rate intact.

    [12:55] Closes with 5% down, 3% credits, and minimal points at signing.

    [15:45] Rents two bedrooms at $925 each via Facebook Marketplace fast.

    [22:20] Camper strategy: buys $4,900 unit, lives there to free up studio.

    [22:36] Property grosses $6,300/month on $4,450 PITIMI—positive cash flow achieved.

    [28:58] Second deal: $656,500 four-bed, four-bath with ADU near first house.

    [32:37] PIT around $5,300; fully rented gross target near $8,000 per month.

    [36:45] Uses 0% AmEx for renovation materials—pays it down through rent flow.

    [38:50] Shares contractor lessons: feed crews, keep scope clear, avoid rework.

    [46:19] Final advice: stay scrappy, act fast, and systemize what works.

    HOST

    Craig Curelop

    📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thefiguy

    📘 Book: https://store.biggerpockets.com/products/the-house-hacking-strategy

    🏘️ Buy Real Estate: https://bit.ly/3V3QDze

    GUEST

    Yoni Kaszynski: https://www.instagram.com/yonikaszynski
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    49 m
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