Brian Turner is the CEO of OTI, a master systems integrator that connects HVAC, lighting, and building systems into unified platforms to drive operational and energy efficiency, and ESG performance across the built environment. With over 30 years of experience in building automation, Brian has worked closely with major property owners to advance system integration and building data strategies. Prior to OTI, he led Controlco and later BuildingsIOT, where he helped shape the evolution of smart building infrastructure and IoT-driven operations. At OTI, Brian is focused on transforming how buildings operate by bringing together fragmented systems into a single, intelligent layer—making buildings smarter, more efficient, and easier to manage.

(01:40) - What's OTI
(02:32) - 30 Years of Building Technology
(04:13) - The Retrofit Opportunity
(05:55) - Why LEED Performance Slips
(07:03) - Investing in Energy Technology
(11:17) - A Unified Brain for Buildings
(14:48) - How OTI Engages Clients
(16:08) - Product Roadmap
(18:55) - Regulation vs Real Market Drivers
(19:59) - Comfort Across Asset Classes
(25:27) - Feature: Blueprint: The Future of Real Estate 2026 in Vegas on Sep. 22-24
(26:19) - Local Law 97
(27:49) - When Owners Take Action on Energy
(34:33) - Split Incentives in Leases
(38:12) - Passive House Needs Operational Technology
(40:20) - Wireless & Lower Retrofit Costs
(44:49) - Where AI Adds Value
(48:20) - Collaboration Superpower: Albert Einstein and Claude Shannon

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➡️ Visit OTI
➡️ Brian Turner on LinkedIn

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Michael Feldman is the former CEO and Co-Founder of Choice New York Companies, a group of firms providing property management, building staffing, and brokerage services to medium and large residential buildings across New York City. He built the company from zero revenue to roughly $27M in revenue and $5.1M in EBITDA before selling the business to Associa Corp. in 2021. Today, Michael remains active in the real estate industry as a real estate and tech investor and advisor, bringing decades of operational experience building and scaling service platforms in the New York multifamily market and beyond.

(01:17) - From Hollywood to New York Real Estate
(03:35) - How PM Models Evolved
(04:50) - Decision to Exit in 2021
(05:59) - Why Few New Entrants & Barriers to Entry
(09:49) - AI Use Cases in Property Management
(12:00) - Feature: Blueprint: The Future of Real Estate 2026 in Vegas on Sep. 22-24
(12:51) - 'War' Stories
(16:05) - M&A & Industry Consolidation
(20:51) - Collaboration Superpower: Winston Churchill

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➡️ Visit Choice NY Management
➡️ Michael Feldman on LinkedIn

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“The most curious person in multifamily,” Moshe Crane is the VP of Branding and Strategic Initiatives at Sage Ventures, a Maryland-based real estate investment and management firm focused on multifamily and other asset acquisitions and development in the Baltimore-Washington corridor. The company manages more than $1B in assets and over 4,000 apartment units while developing and selling new homes.

Moshe also hosts the Curious Wire podcast and writes the Curious Deal newsletter, where he breaks down multifamily deals, careers, and industry trends while exploring how operators build, finance, and scale real estate businesses.

(01:45) - Moshe’s Real Estate Path
(02:32) - Deals Returning to the Market
(06:05) - Sage Ventures' Market Focus
(07:27) - Defining Great Operators
(08:27) - The Third-Party Talent Crunch
(10:17) - Systems Beat Stars
(12:36) - The Sage Operations Playbook
(15:47) - Fraud Screening Tools
(19:01) - The Roving Team Mindset
(21:05) - Moshe’s Role
(23:56) - Feature: CREtech New York Oct. 20–21
(25:52) - The Accidental Self-Storage Win
(26:41) - Office-to-Storage Conversions
(28:21) - A Scrappy Deal Mix
(28:58) - Low-Basis Development Opportunities
(29:46) - Pitching Flexibility to LPs
(30:26) - No Gurus, Just Operators
(33:58) - Discipline Over Vertical Integration
(36:19) - PropTech Ecosystem Shifts
(39:38) - Proptech Adoption
(44:42) - Motivation, Curiosity & Faith
(49:31) - Collaboration Superpower: Bill Walsh

💚 Learn more:
➡️ Visit Sage Ventures
➡️ Moshe Crane on LinkedIn
➡️ Curious Deal newsletter

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Shahar Goldboim is the Founder and CEO of Boom, an AI-enabled property management platform for short-term rental portfolios built by operators. Shahar is an entrepreneur and builder, and he launched Boom with his two sibblings after identifying real-world operational pain points inside a large South Florida property management company as it scaled. Under his leadership, Boom delivers comprehensive software that simplifies workflows, increases revenue, and reduces costs for property managers.

(02:15) - Why Short-Term Rentals Are the Hardest Asset Class
(02:44) - Fragmentation and the Review-Driven Revenue Trap
(04:13) - The Spark: A Miami Airbnb Experiment
(05:30) - From Airbnb Host to Property Manager
(07:31) - Software Fragmentation in STR Ops
(07:55) - From SaaS to Baas (Business-as-Software)
(09:09) - Boom, the AI PMS
(12:47) - Enabling Proactive Ops
(13:51) - The $12M+ Fundraise
(14:47) - Winning Investors with Hospitality & Tech Credibility
(16:53) - Feature: Blueprint Vegas 2026
(17:46) - STR Market Context and the Vacasa Lesson
(21:03) - Replacing Point Solutions
(23:47) - ROI, AI Moats, Future of STR Ops
(32:06) - Collaboration Superpower: Tony Robbins (Wiki)

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➡️ Visit Boom
➡️ Shahar Goldboim on LinkedIn

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Tiffany Yeh, MD is the CEO and Co-Founder of Eztia Materials, a climate-tech venture developing energy-efficient cooling materials to protect people from extreme heat. With a mission to advance hard tech solutions at the climate-health nexus, Tiffany draws on her unique background as a physician, engineer, and public health advocate to build technologies that improve global health in a warming world.

(01:13) - Dr. Ye’s Background & Inspiration
(01:52) - The Heat Challenge
(05:20) - Singapore and the Power of Cooling
(06:32) - Why Construction Has Been Slow to Adapt
(07:22) - The Human Factor
(08:14) - HydroVolt Technology
(09:29) - Business Model, Distribution & Competition
(11:19) - Worker Comfort
(15:32) - Hidden Productivity Crisis Brewing
(18:18) - Feature: Blueprint: The Future of Real Estate 2026 in Vegas on Sep. 22-24
(19:21) - The Secret Sauce Behind HydroVolt
(20:31) - Prototyping & Real-World Applications
(21:32) - Measuring Impact & ROI
(23:34) - Pitching to VCs & Investors
(25:31) - Product Roadmap
(29:08) - Collaboration Superpower: Lionel Messi

💚 Learn more:
➡️ Visit Eztia
➡️ Tiffany Yeh on LinkedIn

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Frank Rohde is the Founder and CEO of Ownify, a fractional homeownership platform pairing institutional and impact investors with qualified first-time buyers to make homeownership more accessible. With a 20+ year career at the intersection of finance, credit analytics, and technology, Frank previously led Nomis Solutions, scaling it into a global mortgage pricing engine used by top banks. Earlier roles include leadership at FICO, founding the early online insurer eCoverage, and launching AI models before it was trendy. Born in Germany, Frank is a former national whitewater kayaking champion, marathon runner on all seven continents, and lifelong reader—now channeling that energy into building a path between renting and owning, one Brick by Brick™.

(01:51) - Why Homeownership Is Broken
(04:10) - Ownify model
(06:03) - How Fractional Ownership Works
(13:08) - Ownify Benefits for First-time Homebuyers
(16:11) - Homeowner & Investor Alignment
(23:21) - Feature: CREtech New York Oct. 20–21
(25:38) - All-Cash Offers Explained
(32:40) - Underwriting & Risk Management
(35:47) - Investor Returns
(38:48) - Market Expansion
(41:37) - Policy & Regulatory Headwinds
(44:04) - Collaboration Superpower: Elon Musk

💚 Learn more:
➡️ Visit Ownify
➡️ Frank Rohde on LinkedIn
➡️ How Do We Help Young People Become Homeowners? | Frank Rohde | TEDxPaloAltoSalon

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Owen Barrett is the CEO and Co-Founder of Shine, a cleantech company helping multifamily property owners maximize NOI through onsite solar. With over 20 years of experience in sustainability and clean energy, Owen previously managed $60M in projects and launched a successful energy venture for schools before founding Shine to solve the split incentive problem in solar. Shine’s turnkey solution targets tenant electricity—95% of a building’s usage—enabling owners to generate new income while cutting tenant costs. With 36,500+ panels installed and a recent $5M seed round, Owen is leading Shine’s national expansion to transform how real estate decarbonizes.

(01:31) - Owen’s Journey from Finance to Clean Energy
(04:27) - Multifamily Solar Challenges & Solution
(09:43) - Solar NOI for Multifamily
(15:16) - Installation and Maintenance
(17:51) - Feature: CREtech New York 2026 on Oct. 20-21
(19:10) - Overcoming Industry Misconceptions
(20:46) - Convincing Asset Managers
(23:15) - Shine’s New Solar Analysis Tool
(25:31) - Targeting New and Existing Buildings
(26:32) - Fundraising and Growth Strategies
(27:59) - Building a Remote Team
(29:43) - Collaboration Superpower: Paul Sween (Dominium Board Chairman)

💚 Learn more:
➡️ Visit Shine
➡️ Owen Barrett on LinkedIn

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➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn
➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn
➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn

Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Maor Greenberg is the co-founder and CEO of Spacial, the AI-powered engineering partner delivering coordinated, permit-ready structural, MEP, and energy plans for residential construction. With over 19 years of experience as a builder and founder, Maor previously scaled Greenberg Construction, Greenberg Design Gallery, and VRchitects, earning Inc. 5000 honors and multiple design awards. At Spacial, he combines deep field experience with cutting-edge AI to reduce permitting friction and accelerate housing delivery. His work has been featured in Forbes, TechCrunch, and CTech, and he actively invests in forward-thinking AEC and AI startups.

(01:33) - Maor's Journey to the US
(02:54) - Challenges in Architectural & Engineering Processes
(04:05) - The Pain Points Leading to Spatial AI
(05:31) - Permitting Bottlenecks in Construction
(06:05) - Design & Construction Integration Issues
(08:24) - AI’s Role in Streamlining Processes
(09:29) - Success Stories & Milestones
(15:07) - Shoutout: AmTrustRE's $217M Office Acquisition of 260 Madison
(15:54) - Feature: Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026
(17:02) - Standardized Pricing & Adoption
(18:55) - Speed vs. Quality in Engineering
(24:53) - Modular Housing
(28:25) - Future Vision for Spatial AI
(29:09) - Collaboration Superpower: Elon Musk

💚 Learn more:
➡️ Visit Spacial AI
➡️ Maor Greenberg

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Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.