Struggling with leadership chaos in the age of data? In this episode of TCAST, host Jason Rigby welcomes Will Watrous—entrepreneur, EOS implementer, and former stressed-out CEO. Will shares his journey from a health crisis during 173% company growth to clarity and focus through the EOS model. Discover how data-driven leadership, accountability, and clear roles can transform any organization. Whether you’re a tech leader or a data enthusiast, this episode offers actionable insights to optimize team performance, reduce stress, and achieve sustainable growth.

🎧 Tune in and master data-driven leadership with clarity.

🔗 Connect with Will Watrous:

• Official EOS Profile

• Will Watrous on LinkedIn

🌐 More Resources:

• TARTLE – Data Marketplace for Ethical Data Sharing

• EOS Worldwide – Official Site

• Traction by Gino Wickman – The book that changed Will’s life

• Death by Meeting – Patrick Lencioni

⏱️ Episode Timestamps:
00:01 – Stress Breakdown: Will’s 173% growth nearly breaks him.
01:27 – Health Wake-Up Call: How stress symptoms became a leadership turning point.
03:48 – Accountability Chart: Clear roles reduce chaos and confusion.
05:44 – Visionary vs. Integrator: Why Will had to stop doing it all.
08:09 – Clarity Brings Action: The discipline of weekly accountability.
10:37 – Level 10 Meetings: Elevating team conversations from a 3 to a 10.
13:29 – Six Key Components: The EOS framework that made it all work.
17:29 – The Power of Rocks: 90-day focus creates momentum.

💬 Notable Quotes:
“Clarity brings action. Complexity kills it.” – Will Watrous
“When the visionary and integrator align, the team unlocks peace and power.”
“If it’s human, it’s mentionable. If it’s mentionable, it’s manageable.”

🔍 Keywords:
data-driven leadership, EOS system, accountability, executive burnout, leadership transformation, team alignment, TCAST, data ethics, business optimization

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This episode features Mai Moore, a dynamic force in leadership and social impact, as she sits down with host Jason Rigby to explore her transition from a 26-year tech career—helping companies like TravelZoo and United Online go public—to founding EYEJ (Empowering Youth, Exploring Justice) and BossMe In. Mai’s story is one of courage, authenticity, and a relentless drive to bridge generational and cultural gaps, creating lasting change for underserved communities and corporate environments alike. She dives into the systemic challenges facing youth, the inefficiencies of traditional nonprofit boards, and the urgent need for intergenerational leadership as Millennials and Gen Z prepare to dominate the workforce by 2030.

Mai offers a masterclass in bold leadership, emphasizing the importance of self-awareness, humility, and action over endless theorizing. She challenges tech leaders to “open the door” for diverse voices—particularly women and underrepresented groups—by taking immediate, practical steps like inviting new perspectives into decision-making rooms. Her insights on bridging the digital divide, addressing toxic stress in youth, and fostering equity in corporate settings resonate with anyone looking to lead with purpose and impact. This conversation is a must-listen for leaders eager to evolve, connect, and empower in a rapidly changing world.

• 00:01 – Introduction to Mai Moore
  Jason introduces Mai, highlighting her bold leadership and social impact journey.

• 01:19 – From Tech to Social Impact
  Mai reflects on her 26-year tech career and the pivotal moment that sparked her shift to founding EYEJ.

• 05:06 – Systemic Issues and Nonprofits
  Discussion on why 27,000 nonprofits in Cleveland fail to address youth mental health and social inequities.

• 10:38 – Bridging Tech and Youth Leadership
  Mai explains how to connect underserved youth with tech opportunities and break the “white male Stanford” mold.

• 14:23 – BossMe In and Corporate Reform
  Introduction to BossMe In, focusing on intergenerational leadership and corporate change.

• 22:31 – Advice for Tech Leaders
  Mai urges leaders to act now—bring diversity into meetings and hire beyond silos.

• 30:57 – Inspiring the Next Generation
  Mai shares what excites her about young leaders and their demand for authenticity and harmony.

• 33:23 – Conversations with Tech Leaders
  Practical tips for tech executives: act fast, talk money openly, and understand who you serve.

• Mai Moore: “We need to embrace change, be authentic, and say, ‘I have no effing clue’ when we don’t know something—it’s about being human.”

• Mai Moore: “Just do it today. Bring someone to a meeting, hire someone for that role—stop overanalyzing and act.”

• Jason Rigby: “It’s so awesome to see somebody with courage and boldness also be positive—this is a tough task.”

• Mai Moore’s Website: maimoore.com – Learn more about Mai’s mission and book her for speaking engagements.

• EYEJ: eyej.org – Explore Mai’s nonprofit empowering youth for justice.

• BossMe In: Visit bossmein.com for insights on intergenerational leadership.

• Related Episode: “AI Ethics and Equity in Tech” – A TARTLE episode on fostering inclusion in technology.

• TARTLE Blog: “Monetizing Data for Social Good” – How data can drive impactful change.

Ready to lead with purpose and bridge worlds for change? Subscribe to the TARTLE podcast, leave a review, and visit tartle.co to join the movement for equity and empowerment. Connect with Mai Moore at maimoore.com to bring her bold insights to your next event!

The collapse of 23andMe is more than a business failure—it's a signal flare for every AI developer and tech executive. In this gripping episode of TCAST, Alexander McCaig and Jason Rigby dissect how a DNA data breach exposed over 7 million profiles and led to the unraveling of consumer trust. With 15 million users now at risk of having their most intimate genetic information auctioned off in bankruptcy court, the stakes for data privacy have never been higher.

The hosts unpack philosophical, legal, and technical perspectives: What does it mean to own your DNA? How does consent work when data outlives intent? Featuring insights from thinkers like John Locke and Luciano Floridi, and showcasing TARTLE’s decentralized model, this episode calls for an ethical reboot in how data is handled. Learn why centralized systems fail—and how TARTLE’s Data Vault Connect could've saved the day.

• 00:45 – Crisis Triggered: What the 23andMe bankruptcy means for tech.

• 04:20 – Genetic Ownership Debate: DNA as property or identity?

• 08:10 – Systemic Trust Failure: Consent debt and centralized vulnerabilities.

• 12:00 – The Gattaca Parallel: Profiling, prejudice, and dystopian AI futures.

• 17:35 – Zero-Debt Consent Model: TARTLE’s blueprint for data ethics.

• 21:00 – Data as a Renewable Resource: Lessons from natural ecosystems.

• 26:10 – Sovereign Nations & Data Wars: Who's buying your DNA?

• 30:25 – Final Challenge to Tech Leaders: Ethical design isn’t optional.

• “Your DNA on the auction block isn’t a sci-fi plot—it’s happening now.” – Jason Rigby

• “Centralized systems fail humans. Decentralized ones empower them.” – Alexander McCaig

• “Data isn’t just property—it’s an extension of you.” – Alexander McCaig

• TARTLE Platform – Explore decentralized data ownership

• 23andMe Data Breach Analysis (TARTLE Twitter)

• Books/Concepts: Luciano Floridi’s Informational Organisms, Helen Nissenbaum’s Contextual Integrity

• Learn More About TARTLE Data Vault Connect: https://2ly.link/23CeM

In this transformative episode, host Jason Rigby dives into introverted leadership with Jennifer B. Kahnweiler, PhD, bestselling author of The Introverted Leader: Building on Your Quiet Strength (Third Edition). The conversation explores how introverts can leverage their natural strengths—deep thinking, preparation, and engaged listening—to excel in today’s hybrid and remote work environments. Jennifer shares her proven 4 Ps framework (Prepare, Presence, Push, Practice), offering practical tools for navigating meetings, managing energy, and building meaningful connections without compromising authenticity.

The episode also tackles common misconceptions about introverts, such as their supposed dislike for people, and highlights surprising traits, like their passion when discussing beloved topics. Jennifer’s insights, drawn from decades of research and partnerships with organizations like Amazon and NASA, make this a must-listen for introverted leaders and their allies aiming to foster inclusive, high-performing workplaces. From networking hacks to creating introvert-friendly cultures, this episode delivers science-backed strategies with real-world impact.

• 00:01 – Introduction
  Jason shares his personal connection to The Introverted Leader and its impact on his leadership journey.

• 01:07 – Defining Quiet Strength
  Jennifer explains how introverts’ listening and reflection skills are powerful leadership assets.

• 02:44 – Busting Introvert Myths
  Debunking stereotypes that introverts are antisocial or unfit for leadership.

• 04:20 – Mastering Meetings
  Strategies like pre-meeting prep and structured facilitation to amplify introvert voices.

• 08:19 – Preparation as a Superpower
  How preparation builds confidence and earns respect in dynamic settings.

• 11:06 – Avoiding Burnout
  Tips for managing energy with time-blocking and proactive self-care.

• 13:43 – Balancing Engagement
  Encouraging introverts to stay connected without over-isolating remotely.

• 17:22 – Power of One-on-Ones
  Why introverts excel in deep, meaningful conversations and how to leverage them.

• 21:38 – Surprising Introvert Traits
  How introverts surprise others with passion on topics they love.

• 23:24 – Introvert-Friendly Workplaces
  Practical steps to create inclusive cultures that value quiet strengths.

• 27:43 – Extroverts as Allies
  How extroverted leaders can normalize and celebrate introversion.

• 32:10 – The 4 Ps Framework
  A deep dive into Prepare, Presence, Push, and Practice for leadership success.

• 50:06 – Closing Thoughts
  Jason and Jennifer reflect on the introvert revolution and its impact.

• “Introverts don’t dislike people—they just need time to recharge so they can show up fully.” – Jennifer B. Kahnweiler

• “Preparation is the introvert’s secret weapon; it frees you to be present and adapt.” – Jennifer B. Kahnweiler

• “Leadership isn’t about being the loudest—it’s about listening and acting with purpose.” – Jason Rigby

• Book: The Introverted Leader: Building on Your Quiet Strength (Third Edition) – Order on Amazon

• Website: JenniferKahnweiler.com

• Podcast: Introvert Ally by Jennifer B. Kahnweiler – Listen here

In this episode of TCAST, Jason Rigby sits down with music tech pioneer Nick Holmsten (formerly of Spotify) to explore the evolving landscape of music technology and fan engagement. They discuss the rise of personalized playlists, the ethical implications of data usage, and the potential of blockchain and AI to revolutionize artist-fan relationships. Learn how emerging artists can leverage technology to build a loyal fanbase and thrive in today's competitive music industry. [Primary Keyword: Music Technology and Fan Engagement]

Key Takeaways:

• Data is King: Discover how Spotify used machine learning to create personalized playlists and how this data-driven approach can benefit both artists and fans.
• The Fan Power Shift: Understand why fan engagement is more critical than ever and how artists can cultivate direct relationships with their audience.
• Blockchain's Potential: Explore how blockchain technology could disrupt traditional music industry models, offering greater transparency and control to artists.
• AI: Friend or Foe? Learn how AI can be a powerful tool for music creation and promotion, but why it shouldn't replace human artistry.
• Ethical Considerations: Dive into the importance of data transparency and responsible use of user information in the music industry.
• The Artist as a mini CEO: Artists have more control than ever.
• Find 1,000 Super Fans: It's never been a better time for artists.

Timestamps:

• 00:00: Introduction to Nick Holmsten and his groundbreaking work in the music industry. [Keyword: Music Industry Pioneer]
• 03:08: The Evolution of Personalized Playlists at Spotify: Behind the scenes of Spotify's algorithmic success. [Keyword: Personalized Playlists, Spotify Algorithm]
• 05:50: Balancing Act: How Spotify introduces emerging artists while catering to user preferences. [Keyword: Emerging Artists, Music Discovery]
• 09:08: The Power of the Fan: Why fan engagement is the new currency in the music industry. [Keyword: Fan Engagement, Music Marketing]
• 11:51: Blockchain Revolution: Exploring the potential of blockchain to transform artist-fan relationships and royalties. [Keyword: Blockchain Music, Music Royalties]
• 15:02: AI and Music: Discussing the role of AI in music creation, promotion, and the future of artistry. [Keyword: AI in Music, Music Production]
• 17:58: Ethics in the Spotlight: A deep dive into data transparency and ethical considerations in the music tech world. [Keyword: Data Ethics, Music Tech Ethics]
• 21:04: Building the Future: Nick Holmsten's vision for an ideal tech-driven music platform that empowers both artists and fans. [Keyword: Future of Music, Music Platform]
  
  Nicks Website: https://www.nickholmsten.com/