In this heartfelt episode, Will welcomes Dr. Jason Frishman, clinical psychologist and founder of the Journeymen Foundation, an organization dedicated to helping fathers foster connection, resilience, and growth through community and mentorship. Jason shares how his years of clinical practice led him to create Journeymen, moving beyond traditional therapy models to build spaces where fathers can share stories, support one another, and rediscover their essential role at home and in their own lives. The conversation explores why so many fathers feel isolated in today’s world, the importance of redefining masculinity and emotional connection, and how outdoor experiences and shared adventures serve as catalysts for personal transformation.

Jason also shares a personal story about a camping trip with his infant son and wife that reshaped his understanding of adventure, family, and resilience. Together, Jason and Will discuss how stepping into discomfort, embracing imperfection, and finding meaning in the mundane can foster profound emotional growth. If you're a father—or if you support fathers—this conversation offers powerful insights into building lasting connection, challenging outdated narratives of manhood, and finding healing through nature, story, and community.

In this powerful episode Will sits down with acclaimed author and risk management expert Ty Gagne to discuss his latest book, The Lions of Winter: Survival and Sacrifice on Mount Washington. Ty takes listeners behind the scenes of the tragic 1982 search and rescue mission that claimed the life of volunteer Albert Dow—an event that forever changed New Hampshire’s backcountry rescue protocols. Through gripping storytelling and deep reflection, Ty illuminates the heroism, emotional toll, and legacy of this landmark incident, shedding light on the psychological challenges faced by rescuers and the evolution of mountain safety over the past four decades.

The conversation also explores the unique dangers of the White Mountains, the increasing number of unprepared adventurers, and the importance of humility and preparation when heading into unpredictable wilderness environments. Ty shares a poignant personal story about witnessing a breathtaking sunrise on Mount Washington just before the COVID-19 shutdown—a moment that reflects the deep connection between nature and mental wellness. As both an outdoor enthusiast and risk professional, Ty brings unparalleled insight into how outdoor tragedy can lead to meaningful change, compassion, and understanding. This episode is essential listening for anyone passionate about the outdoors, mental health, and the human stories behind survival and loss.

To purchase The Lions of Winter: Survival and Sacrifice on Mount Washington or any of Ty’s other books check out his website: https://www.fullconditionsnh.com

In this powerful episode Will speaks with Audrey Costa, founder of Deep Rooted Wellness and Creatives, about her powerful journey from personal hardship to purposeful healing. Audrey opens up about her struggles with addiction, parenting through adversity, and how turning to nature—and backpacking in particular—transformed her mental health. Through her vulnerability and wisdom, she shares how movement, nature, and creativity became the cornerstones of her recovery and the foundation for her work with others.

Audrey also dives into her nature-based offerings, including trauma-informed hiking experiences, Wild Resilience backpacking retreats for women, and custom healing experiences for those navigating grief or burnout. As a soon-to-be clinical mental health counselor, Audrey blends her fitness and wellness expertise with deep emotional insight to create spaces where others can find strength, self-discovery, and peace in the outdoors. Tune in for a heartfelt, honest, and empowering conversation about healing through connection—to ourselves, to others, and to nature.

Check out Audrey’s website: https://www.deeprootedwellnessandcreatives.com/

Discover upcoming men’s retreats that our podcast host, Will White is facilitating at WMAI.org.