We sit down with Swedish angler, conservationist, and filmmaker Emilie Björkman to dive deep into her latest cinematic masterpiece: Wild Fish, Wild Places.

Emilie takes us behind the scenes of this series, sharing the highs and lows of filming in some of the world’s most iconic and fragile fisheries. We also give a massive shout-out to her filmmaking partner, Ted Logardt, the visionary behind the lens who helps bring these poetic, rugged stories to life. Together, Emilie and Ted have created a series that is as much about the culture and responsibility of the sport as it is about the fish themselves.

• 📺 Watch on YouTube: Loop Tackle - Wild Fish, Wild Places

Follow Emilie’s Journey:

• Instagram: @emiliebjorkman

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We head east to the legendary Gaspé coast for an unforgettable adventure chasing striped bass and Atlantic salmon. It was our first time exploring the region, except for Aldo who had been before - and the experience lived up to every bit of the hype.

We were joined by our good friends Junior and David, and together we fished the rivers and coastal waters of the Gaspé while taking in the rugged beauty that makes this place so special. Along the way, we also filmed a short documentary called This Is Ours, which tells the story of the Gaspé Coastal lodge and the people connected to it. The film is currently touring in the PALM Festival and the Scale of Change festival, and this trip became a big part of that story.

In this episode, we talk about first impressions of the Gaspé region, what it was like targeting striped bass and salmon in such an iconic fishery, the moments that stood out from the trip, and how the experience shaped the film.

From road-trip laughs to powerful days on the water, this conversation captures the spirit of a place that quickly left its mark on all of us.

If you love travel, fishing, and the stories that come from chasing fish in new places, DON'T MISS THIS EP!

Special thanks to Junior and David for working their butts off to capture the film and content. AND to the fab people at Gaspé Coastal. WE LOVE YOU!

VISIT Gaspé: https://www.gaspecoastal.com/

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We sit with Indigenous Pueblo angler Norman Maktima. Norman grew up in Pecos, just outside Santa Fe, fishing the Pecos River with his father, a place that shaped both his angling and his identity as a descendant of the Pueblos of San Felipe, Laguna, and Hopi. He’s been immersed in fly fishing since childhood, splitting time between the water and the vise, and by 1997 he was already guiding for High Desert Angler and earning a spot on Team USA’s Youth Fly Fishing Team. Since then, he’s built an elite competitive career with international medals, a U.S. National Championship title, and appearances at world championships across Europe and North America. Today, Norman designs signature flies for Umpqua, runs NMaktima Fly Fishing featuring Pueblo-inspired designs - he guides on the San Juan River, and coaches the U.S. Women’s Fly Fishing Team, which recently took Team Gold along with individual Gold and Silver at the World Championships. Beyond competition, he’s deeply committed to teaching and sharing knowledge, especially within Indigenous communities, using fly fishing as a way to connect culture, water, and opportunity.

Find Norman's stuff: https://nmaktimaflyfishing.com/ Thanks for coming on the show, Norman!

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