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What actually reignites a tired mind: more hustle or better design? We dig into the moments that drain us and the choices that light us back up, starting with Natalie’s behind-the-scenes look at a 13-hour reality-TV shoot and the mental gymnastics it demands. That raw, human story sets the tone for an episode about resilience that isn’t performative—it’s practical.

Our guest, Sarah Michelle Bose, MSN APRN FNP-BC, walks us through the unlikely rise of SMNP Reviews, a seven-figure brand built by solving the real problem nursing grads faced during COVID: anxiety and uncertainty, not just content gaps. She breaks down how a $15 review grew into sold-out live cohorts with a pass guarantee, why early word-of-mouth beats ads when the product truly works, and how hiring a coach plus two key team members unlocked her best ideas. We unpack the shift from creator-does-everything to leader-designs-experiences, the difference between time management and energy management, and the operational fixes that stop burnout before it starts.

Growth wasn’t tidy. Sarah shares the hard lessons from a costly “junk code” app, the strain of keywoman syndrome, and the decision to seek strategic partners without compromising values. She and her husband set a non-negotiable number, evaluated culture fit, walked away from a low offer, and ultimately exited on their terms—while preparing for a new season of life. Along the way, you’ll hear clear takeaways on building confidence into your product, guaranteeing outcomes you can control, and designing programs that reduce anxiety and increase mastery.

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Disclaimer: The information provided in this podcast is for general informational purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The co-hosts of this podcast are not medical professionals. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have heard on this podcast. Reliance on any information provided by the podcast hosts or guests is solely at your own risk.

Pamela Cass is a licensed broker with Kentwood Real Estate
Natalie Davis is a licensed broker with Keller Williams Realty Downtown, LLC

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Fire rarely reignites in a noisy room. We bring in a veteran divorce mediator to show how quiet skills—neutrality, boundaries, and deep listening—turn high-conflict standoffs into agreements people can live with. From personal triggers to client blowups, he walks us through the real work behind “staying neutral” and why it’s not a stance but a job: set expectations, shut down disrespect, and come prepared with options that honor both the numbers and the nerves.

You’ll hear why drama often spikes when there’s less to divide, how confidentiality protects everyone, and what it takes to read the iceberg beneath each demand. Instead of positional bargaining—my way versus yours—he uses interest-based negotiation to find the option no one named but both can accept. Think Thai food when the room is stuck on burger versus pizza. Along the way, small affirmations and clear math lessons become turning points. When people feel seen and understand the tradeoffs, the thunderstorm passes and progress starts.

We also talk about the circle around the couple. Friends and family can help most by asking “How can I help?” and then sitting with the answer, even if it’s silence. Presence beats advice. The mediator shares why he sometimes ends a case to protect the process, how he prepares between sessions to save clients time and money, and why service above self starts with local acts of care. If you’re navigating divorce, leading a team through conflict, or just trying to argue less and understand more, these tools will steady your next hard conversation.

Want more resources and a steady guide? Visit equitablemediation.com for checklists, videos, and a free call where available. If this conversation helped, follow Reignite Resilience, share this episode with a friend who needs it, and leave a quick review so others can find it too.

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Pamela Cass is a licensed broker with Kentwood Real Estate
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A better divorce starts with better decisions. We sit down with Joe, a seasoned divorce mediator and finance pro, to unpack how couples can end a marriage without burning down their futures. Instead of letting a stranger define “fair,” Joe shows how to bring control back to the table: build a realistic budget, map parenting time with intention, and negotiate support and property division with eyes wide open.

We dig into the four pillars of divorce—parenting plan, child support, alimony, and property—and why three of them are really money conversations in disguise. Joe explains how courts of equity can feel unpredictable, how biases sneak into decisions, and why mediation gives you a faster, clearer path to outcomes you can actually live with. Along the way, we talk candidly about the emotional costs of litigation, the whisper network of friends who mean well but make things worse, and the power of seeing your numbers on paper before you fight over them.

What sets Joe’s approach apart is the blend of financial rigor and emotional coaching. His team keeps conversations calm, uses proven communication tools to stop unhelpful patterns, and helps both people focus on what will matter in ten years, not ten minutes. If you care about protecting your kids, preserving your wealth, and recovering your peace of mind, this conversation offers a practical roadmap from crisis to clarity.

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Disclaimer: The information provided in this podcast is for general informational purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The co-hosts of this podcast are not medical professionals. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have heard on this podcast. Reliance on any information provided by the podcast hosts or guests is solely at your own risk.

Pamela Cass is a licensed broker with Kentwood Real Estate
Natalie Davis is a licensed broker with Keller Williams Realty Downtown, LLC