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In this podcast we deconstruct difficult decisions so we can determine what keeps us stuck and, more importantly, how to get unstuck.© 2023 Off the Fence with Karen Covy Ciencias Sociales Relaciones
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  • The Divorce Correspondent Who Didn't Exist - Until Now
    Mar 4 2026

    Divorce doesn't come with an instruction manual … but what if it could? When veteran celebrity journalist Ilyssa Panitz filed for divorce in 2018, she searched desperately for someone who could translate the confusing legal jargon and overwhelming process into plain English, but that "divorce correspondent" didn't exist. So as her long-running divorce dragged on, Ilyssa became the resource she wished she'd had all along.

    In 2020 Ilyssa launched a nationally syndicated radio show, streaming TV series, and website dedicated to demystifying every aspect of divorce. From the shocking cost of legal retainers to why fighting over the family home might be the worst financial decision you'll make, Ilyssa breaks down the critical mistakes people make when they're too emotional to think straight.

    She explains why your legal team is just one piece of a much larger puzzle and how to analyze decisions in a common-sense way that will keep the drama (and your legal fees!) down.

    Whether you're considering divorce, in the middle of one, or trying to rebuild after, Ilyssa’s hard-won wisdom offers a roadmap through the chaos. She tackles everything from hidden liens on your house to what happens to kids when parents vent publicly about their divorce.

    Ilyssa wraps up with a message of hope: that with the right preparation and the right team, you can emerge from divorce not broken, but empowered.

    (And yes, we talk about celebrity divorce, too!)

    About Ilyssa

    Veteran journalist Ilyssa Panitz is a trailblazer - one of the world's foremost journalists about divorce and a highly accomplished entertainment news reporter, producer, and editor for more than 25+ years. Ilyssa began writing about divorce for Authority Magazine in 2020. Her work with the publication led Ilyssa to launch a website and radio show tackling every issue and angle surrounding all stages of divorce. Her nationally syndicated show "The Divorce Hour with Ilyssa Panitz" airs every Saturday and Sunday on CRN Digital Talk Radio Network and streams on 14 platforms including Spotify, Amazon, iTunes, Apple, and all podcast platforms. In 2024, Ilyssa debuted her new streaming television series "Ways Thru Divorce" on Your Home TV, a free on-demand streaming platform. Throughout her career, Ilyssa's important connections in the world of entertainment, sports, and business have made her a go-to writer for A-list talents like Tom Hanks, John Travolta, Dolly Parton, Oprah, Jane Fonda, Will Smith, Venus Williams, Meryl Streep, Jay Leno and more. Ilyssa is one of the most well-rounded journalists in the industry today.

    Connect with Ilyssa

    You can follow Ilyssa on Instagram, X and TikTok @ilyssapanitz and get exclusive content from The Divorce Hour and Ways Thru Divorce on Instagram @thedivorcehour and @waysthrudivorce. To learn more about working with Ilyssa, visit her website at Ilyssa Panitz.


    Karen Covy is a Divorce Coach and Consultant, Lawyer, Author, and Speaker who is dedicated to helping people make the best decisions possible for themselves, their families, and their future - especially in stressful times. You can check out Karen's videos on YouTube.

    You can connect with Karen on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and on her own website at karencovy.com.


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    47 m
  • The 5 Stages of Divorce Grief You Need to Understand
    Feb 25 2026

    Divorce can feel like an emotional freefall, especially because you don’t know what to expect or when the pain will stop. That’s precisely the problem that Oona Metz has set out to end in her book on divorce grief, entitled Unhitched: The Essential Divorce Guide for Women.

    As a licensed clinical social worker with decades of experience, Oona shares how her own divorce led her to create structured, therapist-led divorce support groups for women who desperately needed reassurance, guidance, and a sense that they weren’t alone. Through that work, Oona has identified five distinct phases of divorce grief that everyone who experiences a divorce will go through.

    Like Elisabeth Kubler Ross’ five stages of grief, Oona’s five phases of divorce grief provide structure to what otherwise seems to be a chaotic experience. Identifying and understanding those phases of grief provide those navigating divorce with a roadmap through one of life's most disorienting experiences

    In this podcast episode, Oona walks through how heartbreak, emotional ups and downs, healing, letting go, and moving forward actually show up in real life. She also offers practical insight into boundaries, high-conflict co-parenting, and dating after divorce, all with a focus on helping women regain clarity, confidence, and a sense of self.

    If you or someone you love is navigating the choppy waters of divorce grief, this podcast episode will provide you with the structure and support you need to get through your challenges with more confidence and grace.

    About Oona

    Oona Metz is the author of Unhitched: The Essential Divorce Guide for Women. She is a therapist with 30 years of clinical experience. For the past 15 years she has specialized in treating women navigating divorce. She leads three weekly divorce support groups and trains mental health professionals to lead them as well.

    Connect with Oona

    You can connect with Oona on LinkedIn at Oona Metz and on Facebook at Women Navigating Divorce. You can follow Oona on YouTube at Oona Metz and on Instagram at Oona Metz. To learn more about working with Oona, visit her website at Oona Metz.

    New from Oona

    Oona’s new book is what you need to support you through the emotional side of divorce. Order your copy now! Unhitched: The Essential Divorce Guide for Women.


    Karen Covy is a Divorce Coach and Consultant, Lawyer, Author, and Speaker who is dedicated to helping people make the best decisions possible for themselves, their families, and their future - especially in stressful times. You can check out Karen's videos on YouTube.

    You can connect with Karen on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and on her own website at karencovy.com.


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    41 m
  • How to Have Productive Money Conversations With Your Spouse
    Feb 18 2026

    Money fights don’t usually start with numbers. They start with invisible beliefs you don’t realize you’re carrying, and they show up in the money conversations you have or don’t have with your spouse.

    In this podcast episode, Terry Gaspard, a licensed therapist, author, and relationship expert, explains why money becomes such a charged issue in relationships and how childhood experiences shape our money beliefs in ways we rarely recognize.

    Drawing from both professional research and her own personal experience, Terry talks about the scarcity versus abundance mindsets and why a clash of mindsets quietly drives conflict, even in strong relationships.

    Unexamined money beliefs turn into blame, defensiveness, and power struggles, often without either partner understanding what’s really happening. Terry shares how awareness, education, and intentional money conversations can help couples uncover their money “scripts,” understand each other’s financial styles, and stop treating financial disagreements as personal attacks.

    Whether you're struggling with conflicting money mindsets or just want to strengthen your financial partnership, this conversation offers actionable strategies that can transform how you handle money as a couple.

    About Terry

    Terry Gaspard, MSW, LICSW, is a licensed therapist with over thirty years of clinical experience specializing in individuals, couples, and families, divorce, remarriage, as well as an author, nonfiction writer, and college instructor. She is a contributor to Huffington Post, The Good Men Project, The Gottman Institute Blog, and Marriage.com. Two of her research studies on adult children of divorce have been published in the Journal of Divorce and Remarriage.

    Connect with Terry

    You can find Terry on LinkedIn at Terry Gaspard, Facebook at Moving Past Divorce, Twitter at Moving Past Divorce and on her website at Moving Past Divorce.

    New from Terry

    You can find Terry's new book, Let's Talk About Money: Low-Conflict Conversations for Couples" available on Amazon and Barnes and Noble. Also available on audiobook on Amazon.


    Karen Covy is a Divorce Coach and Consultant, Lawyer, Author, and Speaker who is dedicated to helping people make the best decisions possible for themselves, their families, and their future - especially in stressful times. You can check out Karen's videos on YouTube.

    You can connect with Karen on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and on her own website at karencovy.com.


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    32 m
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