When someone you love is in a mental health crisis, what do you say? How do you show up without panicking or trying to fix it all?

In this episode, Corrine and Neil talk through one of the most tender and difficult questions they’ve ever received: “What do you say to someone who says they’re done?”—a phrase that often signals deep emotional pain or even suicidal thoughts.

Drawing from principles of recovery, their own personal experiences, and their faith in Jesus Christ, Corrine and Neil explore how to truly support someone who feels like they’ve reached their breaking point. They offer practical tools—like the ACT method (Ask, Care, Tell)—and compassionate reminders that presence matters far more than having the perfect words.

They discuss what emotional distress really feels like, how to sit with someone in that darkness without trying to rush them out of it, and why sometimes, saying “just breathe” is more powerful than trying to fix anything. You’ll also hear a thoughtful conversation on the difference between helping someone and trying to control the outcome, and how to lean into faith when everything feels out of your hands.

Whether you’re trying to support someone dealing with suicidal ideation or you’re seeking peace in your own struggle, this conversation is a gentle and faith-filled place to begin.

Supporting Resources:

• How to Help Someone in Crisis - https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/suicide-how-to-help/how-to-help-someone-in-crisis?lang=eng
• Suicide Prevention and Ministering - https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/get-help/suicide?lang=eng
• Give Us This Day Our Daily Bread by Elder D. Todd Christofferson - https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/broadcasts/article/ces-devotionals/2011/01/give-us-this-day-our-daily-bread?lang=eng

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Trigger Warning: This episode discusses sexual assault. Listener discretion is advised.

In this gripping and life-changing episode, Corrine sits down with Robyn Warner, a survivor, entrepreneur, and fierce advocate for women’s safety. Robyn shares her brutal sexual assault story—how, as a young college girl, she was attacked during a daytime run in a place she thought was perfectly safe. She opens up about what she did to become a survivor instead of a victim, and how that experience led her to build a mission of empowering women and teaching families real-life safety strategies.

Robyn walks listeners through the exact self-defense tools and safety techniques that made the difference between life and death, including yelling specific phrases, trusting your gut, and fighting to escape. She also explains why “screaming” isn’t the same as “yelling,” and shares practical steps moms and daughters can take to feel more prepared and empowered, not paralyzed by fear.

Corrine and Robyn also dive into how to let go of shame and create open conversations with our kids—especially with daughters.

This episode will give you the tools and confidence to protect yourself and the people you love.

For more from Robyn, find her on Instagram @aflyonmywall or visit robynwarner.co. And if you're someone who wants to feel safer, stronger, and more empowered, Robyn’s online safety course is for you. Use code MINTARROW for 25% OFF.

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In this episode, Corrine and Neil share the spiritual spark that came from revisiting one of Corrine’s favorite reads—At the Pulpit, a collection of powerful discourses by Latter-day Saint women. One particular talk led them into a heartfelt discussion about the difference between simply going through the motions and being truly anchored in the principles of the gospel.

Together, they reflect on how easy it can be to drift spiritually when our faith is based more on practices or traditions than on personal testimony and truth. Corrine opens up about a recent moment that helped her see temple garments in a completely new light, and Neil shares how a mission experience taught him to separate procedures from eternal principles.

Because the gospel was never meant to be memorized and recited—it was meant to be lived, loved, and understood from the inside out.

Supporting Resources:

• At the Pulpit: 185 Years of Discourses by Latter-day Saint Women | Read it here or get a physical copy here.
• Drifting, Dreaming, Directing by Ardeth G. Kapp (Chapter 41 in At the Pulpit Book)
• What Are Temple Garments? by Church of Jesus Christ | Come Unto Christ
• “Mormon Underwear” is the Temple Garment and is Sacred to Latter-day Saints by Church Newsroom

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