Author & human rights lawyer Anu Gupta sits down with Raghu to explore meeting division with “soul force”—the compassionate, spiritual power that lives within us all.

This time on Mindrolling, Raghu and Anu have an in-depth conversation on:

• The precipice of our karma and how past negative actions are coming to a head globally
• Anu’s recent work in South Africa with racial healing and dissolving borders
• How Artificial Intelligence lacks ethics and moral virtues
• Resisting commodification and profit-driven systems through awareness and conscious choice
• How modern society has dulled our innate human capacity to care
• Returning to our shared primary identity as human beings rather than focusing on what makes us different
• Buddhist teachings on interconnectedness and the illusion of separateness
• Meditation as an antidote for the negative habits that we have stored within ourselves
• Navigating Kali Yuga with Bhakti yoga and merging with the divine
• Finding the divinity in every single human being
• Keeping the faith and remembering that uncertainty does not have to be dangerous
• How small acts of kindness can add up to global change
• The PRISM acronym that Anu discusses in his book, Breaking Bias

“Recognize that everything that happens is perfectly designed to open up your eyes, your mind, your heart, to one thing or another that you need in this lifetime.” –Raghu Markus

About Anu Gupta:

Anu Gupta is a human rights lawyer, scientist, scholar of bias, meditation teacher, and the founder and CEO of BE MORE with Anu, a professional development company that trains corporate, nonprofit, and government leaders to advance inclusion and wellness by breaking bias. He is also the author of Breaking Bias: Where Stereotypes and Prejudices Come From and the Science-Backed Method to Unravel Them(2024), with a foreword from His Holiness the Dalai Lama. Check out Anu Gupta on Substack, Linked in, and Instagram.

Interested in working directly with Anu? Head over to Bemorewithanu.com to learn more.

“It’s really a spiritual power that we all have as human beings, as a spirit in this body suit; it's the loving strength of will to confront injustice and violence without mirroring. That is what we must reinvigorate within ourselves, but also between ourselves. That soul force, to see it with kindness and compassion and when we divert from it, to be able to call ourselves and others back on that path.” –Anu Gupta

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Reflecting on Ram Dass’s core teachings, Hanuman Dass and Raghu Markus discuss the immense power of love, service, and compassion.

Check out There is No Other for more of Ram Dass’s teachings on the path to harmony. Also, stay tuned for the release of Hanuman Dass’s forthcoming book Be Yourself, formed out of his conversations with Ram Dass.

This week on Mindrolling, Raghu and Hanuman Dass have a conversation on:

• Hanuman Dass’s experience growing up in a deeply connected, matriarchal family
• Living spirituality in everyday life, household puja, and devotional practices
• How karma dictates our lives and puts us right where we are supposed to be
• Hanuman Dass’s relationship with Ram Dass and becoming inspired to serve through food donation
• The Upanishads, self-inquiry, and Ram Dass’s perpetual devotion to Maharaj-ji
• Compassion as the direct road to enlightenment
• Empowering those we help rather than impoverishing them or pitying them
• Reflecting on the dharma of humanity and our shared responsibility to one another

You can now watch Bridge of Grace to learn more about KK Sah, a Maharaj-ji devotee and close friend of Ram Dass. Click here to learn more.

About Hanuman Dass:

Hanuman Dass is the founder of the UK-based charity Go Dharmic (GD). GD’s core mission is global hunger relief, supported by their humanitarian crisis response work and campaigns for environmental action, poverty alleviation, education, and plant-based and organic diets. Hanuman Dass was inspired into service through his relationship with Ram Dass, whom he met in his 20’s. GD's founding ethos is based on the philosophy of Sanatana Dharma. Their mission is to “Love All. Feed All. Serve All.” Check out the GD website for more information and stay in touch with Hanuman Dass on social media. Pick up a copy of this guide to the Hanuman Chalisa created with Hanuman Dass

“I feel lightest here, I feel happiest in service and love…drink is nice, you go up and down. Drugs might be nice, you go up and down. But, love is forever, you can stay in that space.” –Hanuman Dass

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This week, we pause to remember the life, presence, and artistry of a friend of the show who will be deeply missed.

Recorded in 2021, this conversation features Grammy-winning artist John Forté in his first appearance on the podcast. John and Raghu talk about the spirit of music, the highs and lows of success, and John’s experience headlining the Ram Dass Soul Land Music Series.

John Forté (January 30, 1975 – January 12, 2026) is survived by his wife and two children. If you’d like to offer support, a donation link is available here: Honoring John Forte by Supporting His Family

This special episode features an inspired conversation on:

• Community as the spirit of music: John Forté’s Brooklyn upbringing in the economic downturns of the 70s and 80s
• The emotional, mental, and physical hardships of struggling to get by in an underserved community
• Perseverance through love: John’s inspiration for his musical career
• John’s highest highs, lowest lows, & what it is like to start over
• John’s friendship with the iconic Ms. Lauryn Hill, linking up with The Fugees, and their co-creation of a Grammy-winning, multi-platinum record, The Score
• John's stint in prison, where in his cell, his refuge and musical rebirth came in the form of an acoustic guitar
• Music as internal alchemy and Ram Dass’s influence on John’s song Gong Guru from his album Riddem Drive
• Venturing further into spirituality: John’s deep affinity for wisdom teachers like Ram Dass, Terence McKenna, Alan Watts, and Abraham Hicks

Listen to John’s other visit to the Mindrolling Podcast on Ep. 405 and a conversation about resonance, integration & catharsis on this special Ram Dass Fellowship with host, Jackie Dobriska, available on Ep. 124 of the Be Here Now Network Guest Podcast.

About John Forté:

John Forté is a Grammy-winning recording artist best known for his work with the hip-hop group, The Fugees, writing and producing songs on their multi-platinum record The Score. After a stint in prison while riding the volatile waves of success and failure, John coupled his refuge of music with messages of wisdom and love from inspirational spiritual teachers. Listen to John’s album Riddem Drive, and don’t miss him on the Soul Land Music Series: Songs & Stories Inspired by Ram Dass.

“My journey with music has been the relationship of having it, experiencing it, seeing it morph and take on different colors and shapes. It showed me from a very early age that collaboration was going to be the key for the source of my continued inspiration—working with others, finding that harmony—that’s the spirit of it. The spirit of music is community, it’s communication, it’s air itself.” –John Forté

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