You've built a successful life, climbed the ladder, and proven yourself. So why does the idea of starting over as a beginner feel both terrifying and necessary? In this season two premiere, Kevin and Joe tackle the uncomfortable truth about midlife: everything after "but" is usually an excuse, and staying comfortable is the most dangerous choice you can make. Through raw personal stories, Joe's transformation from bodybuilder to triathlete and Kevin's journey learning to dance alone at 55, they reveal why reclaiming the beginner's mindset might be the key to living fully again.

If you're a professional man who has achieved what you set out to accomplish but still feel something is missing, this episode offers a roadmap for renewal. Kevin and Joe don't just talk about change, they're living it. You'll discover why the discomfort you feel isn't a problem to solve but an invitation to grow, and how becoming a beginner again can unlock joy, purpose, and vitality you thought were behind you.

1. Listen for your "buts" - Every time you say "I'd love to, but..." you're likely feeding yourself an excuse disguised as logic. The moment you hear yourself say "but," pause and ask what fear is really driving that statement.
2. Start before you're ready - You don't need the perfect plan, equipment, or knowledge to begin. Those who do the most sweeping discover what makes a good broom through the doing. Start messy, start imperfect, just start.
3. Practice being uncomfortable - Find something that makes you the new guy again. The humility and growth that comes from beginner status is medicine for the stagnant soul. Whether it's a sport, skill, or social situation, put yourself in positions where you don't have all the answers.
4. Remove friction from new habits - If you're serious about a new pursuit, eliminate barriers. Joe shaved his head for swimming efficiency. What's your equivalent? Make it easier to do the thing than to avoid it.

1. "The Middle Passage: From Misery to Meaning in Midlife" by James Hollis - A guide to understanding that the task of midlife is not to look into the light, but to bring light into the darkness through self-realization and growth.

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What if rediscovering joy and play could unlock a deeper connection with yourself and those around you? In this lively episode, Kevin and Joe discuss why midlife is the perfect time to let go of seriousness, embrace curiosity, and reclaim the playfulness of childhood.

Kevin Rogers and Joe DiRoma, known for their authentic and insightful takes on midlife challenges, explore how men can integrate joy and creativity into their lives. Their combined experiences in personal development and leadership provide a unique lens on why play is more than just fun—it’s essential for growth.

As men navigate midlife, the pressures of career, family, and societal expectations often leave little room for joy and spontaneity. This episode challenges the narrative that adulthood must be devoid of play, offering actionable ways to reignite curiosity and embrace creativity.

• The Importance of Play in Midlife: Rediscovering activities that bring joy, such as dancing, hiking, or creative hobbies, can provide mental clarity and emotional release.
• Letting Go of Judgment: Fear of how others perceive us often blocks joy. Kevin emphasizes the power of being the first to step on the dance floor or try something new, giving others permission to do the same.
• Curiosity as a Gateway to Joy: Cultivating curiosity can reignite a sense of wonder. Joe highlights how asking questions, exploring interests, and breaking from routines open pathways to creativity.
• The Productivity of Non-Productivity: Structured play or even intentional downtime allows for self-reflection, growth, and recharging.

• Book: Memories, Dreams, Reflections by Carl Jung
• Book: The Middle Passage by James Hollis
• Study: George Land’s NASA creativity study, revealing that 98% of five-year-olds demonstrate genius-level creativity
• Quote: Maya Angelou’s insight on how people remember how you make them feel

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What happens when you’re faced with the reality of redefining your life after a long-term relationship ends? In this deeply personal episode, Kevin and Joe discuss the challenges, lessons, and unexpected growth that come from navigating separation. With honesty and insight, they explore what it takes to find freedom, redefine identity, and embrace a new chapter of life.

Kevin Rogers and Joe DiRoma bring years of wisdom and life experience to their conversations about midlife transitions. Kevin’s candid storytelling and Joe’s grounded philosophical perspectives create a unique dialogue that resonates with men grappling with major life changes.

Separation in midlife can feel like a seismic shift, especially for men who’ve built their lives around stability, routine, and family. Whether it’s divorce, career pivots, or personal reinvention, this episode offers actionable insights and emotional depth for anyone questioning their path forward.

• The Process of Separation: Kevin shares his journey of moving out after a 24-year marriage and the profound shifts in identity, routine, and emotions that followed.
• Grief as Growth: Both hosts emphasize the importance of allowing oneself to grieve the end of a relationship—not as failure, but as part of personal evolution.
• Finding Flow Beyond Fight, Flight, or Freeze: Joe introduces the concept of “flow” as a fourth response to trauma, offering a perspective that helps navigate life’s inevitable disruptions.
• Redefining Space: Kevin highlights how creating a personal space that reflects your identity—whether through art, music, or routine—can help foster healing and self-discovery.
• The Importance of Community: Both Kevin and Joe stress the need for authentic male friendships and mentorship, urging men to reach out to their “Joe” or “Kevin” when life gets overwhelming.

• Books:
• The Middle Passage by James Hollis
• Memories, Dreams, Reflections by Carl Jung
• Music:
• Tom Petty’s Wildflowers
• Leonard Cohen’s Live in London
• Quote: “Our wounds become our wisdom.” – James Hollis

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