Join the MMA Detective Mike Davis and co-host Joey Venti for an exclusive deep dive with Paul “The Hitman” Herrera — Division I All-American wrestler (Nebraska, 142 lbs), Tito Ortiz’s high school wrestling coach, and core member of the legendary Tank Abbott crew in Huntington Beach.
In this raw, no-holds-barred conversation, Herrera recounts the Wild West days of MMA: his Olympic Trials run, training with Mark Schultz at BYU, the infamous UFC 6 elevator incident with Pat Smith, dojo-storming Alan Gomez alongside Tank Abbott and Eddie Ruiz, cornering Tito Ortiz’s UFC 13 debut, his own UFC 8 fight against Gary Goodridge, and his bout with Kazushi Sakuraba in Japan. He also details promoting the underground Hitman Fight Series and his current coaching at Huntington Beach Ultimate Training Center.
The MMA History Podcast is the only show 100% dedicated to preserving mixed martial arts history through first-hand interviews with the men who lived it.
0:00 MMA history podcast intro
0:32 Joey Venti’s guest introduction
0:51 interview start
0:54 plugs/ promotions
1:33 recruited to California for wrestling
4:02 early UFC matchmaking
5:17 Olympic training center for wrestling
7:18 taking 2nd place at the Olympic open
10:07 scarce info online for Paul Herrera
11:16 coaching Tito Ortiz in high school
13:38 meeting Tank Abbott for the first time
18:25 relationship with Kimo Leopoldo
20:29 Kimo Leopoldo’s reputation
22:02 interactions with Joe Son
22:40 Randy Ziegler
23:10 relationship with Tito Ortiz
25:13 Dojo storming Allan Góes gym
30:46 animosity towards Tank Abbott at UFC 6
34:08 Tank Abbott vs John Matua
34:49 impression on Dave Thomas
35:50 Tank Abbott vs Paul Varelans
36:46 Oleg Taktarov vs Anthony Macias fixed fight
38:45 Tank Abbott vs Oleg Taktarov
39:22 Pat Smith backstage incident
43:43 running into Pat Smith in elevator
48:00 accused of stealing from Bob Meyrowitz
49:17 putting on Hitman fight events
51:09 relationship with Mark Schultz
54:45 training with Mark Schultz
56:27 Rickson Gracie meeting with Mark Schultz
58:20 invited to fight at UFC 8
59:27 Paul Herrera vs Gary Goodridge
1:00:24 training tape leaked to Gary Goodridge
1:02:17 using substances before Gary Goodridge fight
1:06:43 Refusing hospital treatment after UFC event
1:09:36 Tank Abbott and Allan Góes incident
1:11:24 UFC 9 attendance
1:12:07 preparing Tito Ortiz for UFC debut
1:13:40 Tito Ortiz vs Guy Mezger
1:17:45 Tito Ortiz first MMA fight
1:18:27 Tank Abbott fallout with John McCarthy
1:21:46 Tito Ortiz paid under the table for UFC debut
1:24:53 issues with the Brazilians at UFC after party
1:28:01 Paul Herrera vs Kazushi Sakuraba
1:35:18 the beginning of Japanese hijinks in MMA
1:37:21 Yakuza involvement in fights
1:39:10 John Lober vs Ryushi Yanagisawa
1:39:59 experience with John Lober
1:41:10 Aaron Brink
1:42:24 hosting underground MMA events
1:44:33 first impression of Aaron Brink
1:45:54 choosing to get sober
1:47:07 career highlights
1:48:07 experience with Sean Strickland
1:51:29 interview wrap up
1:53:26 outro/ closing thoughts
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