Jony Ive and Marc Newson have made their mark with the interior of the new Ferrari Luce. The response has been predictably immediate and intense.

Some see a revolutionary rethinking of how electric cars should feel.

Others see a perfectly resolved collection of beautiful objects that nonetheless miss what a Ferrari should be all about

What does this interior say about how we design cars, and the relationship between industrial and automotive designers and car culture?

And what's the difference between "good" design and character?

Drew and Joe unpack the debates that the Luce has sparked—and discover that, whether you like it or not, there's far more to talk about than meets the eye.

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There's been a lot said about how the Jaguar's rebrand and the Type 00 look. But what do they mean? And what do they say about the culture of the company that created them? Joe and Drew dive in to the most talked about launch in a long time.

Links:

Rory Sutherland on the rebrand

Why Jaguar Had To Blow Up Its Brand In Order To Save It

Why Does The New Jaguar Type 00 Look Like A Concrete Shithouse? An Ex-Jaguar Land Rover Designer Explains

Emergency Pod: Jaguar’s Rebrand - Fearless or Foolish?

Emergency Pod: New Jaguar revealed - Worthy or Wasted?

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Joe and Drew aren't short of opinions. While the boys might be sometimes (often?) wrong, at the very least, an opinion gives us something to discuss, something to weigh the merits of. In this episode of Looking Out, they sincerely wish the automotive industry would have some stronger opinions of its own.

Topics covered include the relaunch of Scout by Volkswagen, the Paris Motorshow, Renault's emerging range of retro EVs, the 5, the 4, and the upcoming Twingo, and the Zeekr Mix.

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